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post #1581 of 2156

haha funny y'all... ok so spangled mahogany??? ill try that in the chicken calculator later tonight...
 

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I think he wanted the genetic name of the color/pattern. But its still funny!



 

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White Empordanesa. Black French Marans. White Marans. project Lav Marans. an EE project. dun O.E.G.B. project dun crele O.E.G.B.  white bobwhite quail.  cinnamon and red coturnix quail.

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post #1582 of 2156
I think there is a Jubilee option. That may be it.
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Hi,

 According to Van Dorn and Hancock's book,  Genetics of Chicken Colours-The Basics,  (pages 206, 207) the Speckled Sussex color genotype in the USA is:

Red Mille Fleur which is e+/e+ s+/s+ Mh/Mh mo/mo (with 'rb' added for the very dark birds). rb= recessive black.

The book says Red Millie Fleur is the same as Mille Fleur with Mahogany,  (with 'rb' added for the very dark birds).

Best Regards,

 Karen

P.S., I wondered where the chipmunk stripes were coming from in the Speckled Sussex chicks. e+/e+ s+/s+ is wildtype, which is the chipmunk-striped  chick,

that explains it. So Speckled Sussex is wildtype with the Mahogany and mottled genes added. The genotype is different in Australia, Europe and the UK.

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if I had to put it in the calculator I would use spangled....not sure why but I think I read that somewhere before hu.gif .



 


Edited by 3riverschick - 4/16/12 at 6:02pm
post #1584 of 2156

Oops, that's Van Dort, not Van Dorn, sorry.

 Karen

 

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 Back to the Speckled Sussex for a minute.  The book says the genotype for Speckled Sussex is different in Australia, UK and Europe. It says in Australia, it's based on eb. In Europe and the UK, it's based on both eb and eWh. Now the books says that Speckled Sussex is Red Mille Fleur which is the same a Mille Fleur with Mahogany.   Yet, when I checked the book to see what the genotype is for Mille Fleur, I find only 2 genotypes. One based on eb/eb and one based on eWh/eWh. So, while Red Mille Fleur may be the same as Mille Fleur  with Mahogany, according to the book, that is only for Australia, Europe and the UK. According to the book, our e+ based Speckled Sussex  are a simplier equation, not requiring  any additional  combination of Co, and/or Ml, and/or Db, and /or Pg to make the color. 

 Best,

 Karen


Edited by 3riverschick - 4/16/12 at 6:30pm
post #1585 of 2156


thank u that should help...

 

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Hi,

 According to Van Dorn and Hancock's book,  Genetics of Chicken Colours-The Basics,  (pages 206, 207) the Speckled Sussex color genotype in the USA is:

Red Mille Fleur which is e+/e+ s+/s+ Mh/Mh mo/mo (with 'rb' added for the very dark birds). rb= recessive black.

The book says Red Millie Fleur is the same as Mille Fleur with Mahogany,  (with 'rb' added for the very dark birds).

Best Regards,

 Karen

P.S., I wondered where the chipmunk stripes were coming from in the Speckled Sussex chicks. e+/e+ s+/s+ is wildtype, which is the chipmunk-striped  chick,

that explains it. So Speckled Sussex is wildtype with the Mahogany and mottled genes added. The genotype is different in Australia, Europe and the UK.

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Elias in Clinton AR.
White Empordanesa. Black French Marans. White Marans. project Lav Marans. an EE project. dun O.E.G.B. project dun crele O.E.G.B.  white bobwhite quail.  cinnamon and red coturnix quail.

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Elias in Clinton AR.
White Empordanesa. Black French Marans. White Marans. project Lav Marans. an EE project. dun O.E.G.B. project dun crele O.E.G.B.  white bobwhite quail.  cinnamon and red coturnix quail.

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Hi,

 According to Van Dorn and Hancock's book,  Genetics of Chicken Colours-The Basics,  (pages 206, 207) the Speckled Sussex color genotype in the USA is:

Red Mille Fleur which is e+/e+ s+/s+ Mh/Mh mo/mo (with 'rb' added for the very dark birds). rb= recessive black.

The book says Red Millie Fleur is the same as Mille Fleur with Mahogany,  (with 'rb' added for the very dark birds).

Best Regards,

 Karen

P.S., I wondered where the chipmunk stripes were coming from in the Speckled Sussex chicks. e+/e+ s+/s+ is wildtype, which is the chipmunk-striped  chick,

that explains it. So Speckled Sussex is wildtype with the Mahogany and mottled genes added. The genotype is different in Australia, Europe and the UK.

==================================



 

 

HallFamilyFarm -here is another ha ha ha for you.  What is a chicken calculator?

3Riverschick - this is part of what I was asking about on the show quality SS thread!  Thanks!

 

40 feedstore mixed flock layers, including 7 of last fall's unauthorized chicks, 11 SQ LF Black Orps, herd of 11 Maine-Anjou, Shorthorn, and Saler cattle, four cats, and one lazy, loud red healer! 

Hatching/adding to my LF Black Orps, and some blues/splashes too. Working on self-blue project Orps & Speckled Sussex. Thinking about trying Diamond Jubilee Orps. Show season complete, points earned!!!

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40 feedstore mixed flock layers, including 7 of last fall's unauthorized chicks, 11 SQ LF Black Orps, herd of 11 Maine-Anjou, Shorthorn, and Saler cattle, four cats, and one lazy, loud red healer! 

Hatching/adding to my LF Black Orps, and some blues/splashes too. Working on self-blue project Orps & Speckled Sussex. Thinking about trying Diamond Jubilee Orps. Show season complete, points earned!!!

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post #1587 of 2156

http://kippenjungle.nl/kruising.html

 

it can be confusing and the little pic's aren't that great but its a really cool resource and fun to play around with if you love projects like i do...

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HallFamilyFarm -here is another ha ha ha for you.  What is a chicken calculator?

3Riverschick - this is part of what I was asking about on the show quality SS thread!  Thanks!

 

 

 

Elias in Clinton AR.
White Empordanesa. Black French Marans. White Marans. project Lav Marans. an EE project. dun O.E.G.B. project dun crele O.E.G.B.  white bobwhite quail.  cinnamon and red coturnix quail.

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Elias in Clinton AR.
White Empordanesa. Black French Marans. White Marans. project Lav Marans. an EE project. dun O.E.G.B. project dun crele O.E.G.B.  white bobwhite quail.  cinnamon and red coturnix quail.

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post #1588 of 2156

She said HallFamilyFarm.....anyway Elias is correct. http://kippenjungle.nl/kruising.html is what is called The Chicken Calculator. It is a lot of fun to play around with. However, its not always accurate. Check it out and enjoy!

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HallFamilyFarm -here is another ha ha ha for you.  What is a chicken calculator?

3Riverschick - this is part of what I was asking about on the show quality SS thread!  Thanks!

 

 

 

 

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http://kippenjungle.nl/kruising.html

 

it can be confusing and the little pic's aren't that great but its a really cool resource and fun to play around with if you love projects like i do...

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HallFamilyFarm -here is another ha ha ha for you.  What is a chicken calculator?

3Riverschick - this is part of what I was asking about on the show quality SS thread!  Thanks!

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I will be on/off BYC. If we owe you hatching eggs, please forward us the listing information. We are almost caught up on them and do not wish to miss anyone. Geese are now laying!

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jumpy.gif Your prayers are appreciated! The divorce was granted. yippiechickie.gif

I will be on/off BYC. If we owe you hatching eggs, please forward us the listing information. We are almost caught up on them and do not wish to miss anyone. Geese are now laying!

highfive.gif  Hall Family Farm Swap Page celebrate.gif  Arkansas Chat Thread    yippiechickie.gif Arkansas Swap Thread old.gif

 

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post #1589 of 2156

Hey all I have a bantum white and black light sussex hen that has just hatched out a chick - this chick is crossed with a pekin....does anybody have experence with this type of cross breed? Temperment ect? The chick is yellow with white wings...the underneath part of the wings are black and around her neck she has the black felecks of her mum!!!!

 

Really intrested to hear stories and advice from you guys

 

Danni x

post #1590 of 2156

right ive read online and cant decide, are light sussex a broody breed? because im considering getting one and id like a breed that might go broody

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