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post #41 of 93

The Leghorn is production at best...he's tends to overshoot.  His legs touch the ground and the Leghorn disappears underneath him.  It just doesn't work unfortunately.  The legs are just too long for him.  He is successful with larger hens, but that Leghorn is just too small.

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post #42 of 93
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Originally Posted by Dustin Biery 

I still don't understand the purpose of this.  I know early on Shari said it was for her show birds, but what are the others of you doing it for?


Well Im just learning all I can, Don't think that I will do it at least in the seeable future anyway, However if the time should come to need to do this I will know how(kinda). Besides it is very interesting to me.smile

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I'm Sandy!  Mom to 3 terrific sons, Grandma to 2 wonderful grandsons. I have 6 SS,  7 EEs,  3 CMs, 4 Cochins (2 blue, 1 part.. 1 Red)  1BA, 1BS, 1 SLW, 1 GLS, 1 CWL, 11 Beautiful Mixes, 8 Silkies, 2 SF/Silkie,  Broody sitting 10 Split Coro. SS eggs and Coming soon a dozen Pure Coro. Sussex Eggs!!

Rooster are Zeus (Orpington), Oliver and Rally (Sal.Favs) Blackbeard (SF/Silkie) and Truffle...

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post #43 of 93

Ok one more question if you all don't mind,  Say you have a hen that was previously breed to another Roo, How long do you have to keep her separated until she is no longer fertilized by the previous Roo,   and you can be sure that the eggs you want to hatch are the Roo of your choices offspring?   Thanks again, Sandy

I'm Sandy!  Mom to 3 terrific sons, Grandma to 2 wonderful grandsons. I have 6 SS,  7 EEs,  3 CMs, 4 Cochins (2 blue, 1 part.. 1 Red)  1BA, 1BS, 1 SLW, 1 GLS, 1 CWL, 11 Beautiful Mixes, 8 Silkies, 2 SF/Silkie,  Broody sitting 10 Split Coro. SS eggs and Coming soon a dozen Pure Coro. Sussex Eggs!!

Rooster are Zeus (Orpington), Oliver and Rally (Sal.Favs) Blackbeard (SF/Silkie) and Truffle...

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I'm Sandy!  Mom to 3 terrific sons, Grandma to 2 wonderful grandsons. I have 6 SS,  7 EEs,  3 CMs, 4 Cochins (2 blue, 1 part.. 1 Red)  1BA, 1BS, 1 SLW, 1 GLS, 1 CWL, 11 Beautiful Mixes, 8 Silkies, 2 SF/Silkie,  Broody sitting 10 Split Coro. SS eggs and Coming soon a dozen Pure Coro. Sussex Eggs!!

Rooster are Zeus (Orpington), Oliver and Rally (Sal.Favs) Blackbeard (SF/Silkie) and Truffle...

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post #44 of 93

Ok one more question if you all don't mind,  Say you have a hen that was previously breed to another Roo, How long do you have to keep her separated until she is no longer fertilized by the previous Roo,   and you can be sure that the eggs you want to hatch are the Roo of your choices offspring?


I'd personally go 10 days before I sat the "new roos" eggs. Some may suggest to go longer....


Edited to add: In Dustins defense I understand his point, this subject can be touchy. I've had many conversations about AI versus natural breeding. Their is a theory that using AI generation after generation they can lose the desire to naturally breed. Now don't blow my doors down....lol, it's just a theory I've personally heard from other breeders. Natural breeding is important to me, I want to make sure my males have that "desire" to produce on their own. Other's could care less. I do it when necessary, rest of the time they are in breeding pens doing the work. I feel other things can contribute to lack of desire to breed and that's when a line is inbred generation after generation, I think it breeds the life right out of a bird....literally, along with the "desire." It's natural for a male to want to breed a female so a bird that has no interest in his girls here won't be here long! Just my two cents:)


Shari


Edited by iluvmychicks - 1/20/10 at 4:44pm
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post #45 of 93
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Originally Posted by iluvmychicks 

Ok one more question if you all don't mind,  Say you have a hen that was previously breed to another Roo, How long do you have to keep her separated until she is no longer fertilized by the previous Roo,   and you can be sure that the eggs you want to hatch are the Roo of your choices offspring?


I'd personally go 10 days before I sat the "new roos" eggs. Some may suggest to go longer....


Edited to add: In Dustins defense I understand his point, this subject can be touchy. I've had many conversations about AI versus natural breeding. Their is a theory that using AI generation after generation they can lose the desire to naturally breed. Now don't blow my doors down....lol, it's just a theory I've personally heard from other breeders. Natural breeding is important to me, I want to make sure my males have that "desire" to produce on their own. Other's could care less. I do it when necessary, rest of the time they are in breeding pens doing the work. I feel other things can contribute to lack of desire to breed and that's when a line is inbred generation after generation, I think it breeds the life right out of a bird....literally, along with the "desire." It's natural for a male to want to breed a female so a bird that has no interest in his girls here won't be here long! Just my two cents:)


Shari


Thankyou Shari,

I'm Sandy!  Mom to 3 terrific sons, Grandma to 2 wonderful grandsons. I have 6 SS,  7 EEs,  3 CMs, 4 Cochins (2 blue, 1 part.. 1 Red)  1BA, 1BS, 1 SLW, 1 GLS, 1 CWL, 11 Beautiful Mixes, 8 Silkies, 2 SF/Silkie,  Broody sitting 10 Split Coro. SS eggs and Coming soon a dozen Pure Coro. Sussex Eggs!!

Rooster are Zeus (Orpington), Oliver and Rally (Sal.Favs) Blackbeard (SF/Silkie) and Truffle...

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I'm Sandy!  Mom to 3 terrific sons, Grandma to 2 wonderful grandsons. I have 6 SS,  7 EEs,  3 CMs, 4 Cochins (2 blue, 1 part.. 1 Red)  1BA, 1BS, 1 SLW, 1 GLS, 1 CWL, 11 Beautiful Mixes, 8 Silkies, 2 SF/Silkie,  Broody sitting 10 Split Coro. SS eggs and Coming soon a dozen Pure Coro. Sussex Eggs!!

Rooster are Zeus (Orpington), Oliver and Rally (Sal.Favs) Blackbeard (SF/Silkie) and Truffle...

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post #46 of 93
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Originally Posted by stormylady 

Ok one more question if you all don't mind,  Say you have a hen that was previously breed to another Roo, How long do you have to keep her separated until she is no longer fertilized by the previous Roo,   and you can be sure that the eggs you want to hatch are the Roo of your choices offspring?   Thanks again, Sandy


We always went 10-14 days before introducing the new roo.

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post #47 of 93

This might seem like a strange question  but once you collect the semen
how long will it stay good before you have to use it?

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post #48 of 93

you have to use it right away

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STANDARD:  Wheaten, Black, Blue Ameraucana, Splash, Partridge Silkies, Ga Noi, Lavender Orpington, SQ Black Minorca, Black Langshan, RC RIR
BANTAM: SQ Black Mottled d'Uccles, SQ Gold Neck, Butterscotch & Mottled Buff Booted, Black, Blue & Mille Fleur Cochin, Serama,
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post #49 of 93
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Originally Posted by Dustin Biery 

I still don't understand the purpose of this.  I know early on Shari said it was for her show birds, but what are the others of you doing it for?


In my case I wound up with, unplanned, two full grown cornish cross hens. Since Rustyswoman and I have been talking about breeding for a meat bird line, other than the commercially available; I thought it might be interesting to go the other direction and size these giants down to a more manageable bird.
However, we weren't sure we could find a roo that would mate successfully with a strangely shaped 20 lb hen (most kept falling off).  We needed long legs and strong bones but lighter weight . . . we settled on Adam - a Black Copper Maran that Rusty's woman culled for coloring. Thankfully he has been able to fertilize one of the girls, although it still looks like we will have to try AI with Dorrie.  Our goal among others is to wind up with offspring that CAN successfullly breed on their own.

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Do all the good you can, By all the means you can, In all the ways you can, In all the places you can,
At all the times you can, To all the people you can, As long as ever you can. JW
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post #50 of 93

that was discusting!!!hmmhu

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