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Gold/Golden Neck D'uccles?

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Hi all -

Can any of you genetic experts tell me what exactly a Gold/Golden Neck D'uccles is?  Genetically speaking, that is?

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Kat ~ Fox Hill Farm
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Bantams: Polish, cochins, silkies, seramas & modern games
Plus mandarins, muscovies, guineas, and a herd of turtles!!!
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They are a mille fluer that carries dominante white or  two blue genes (splash)

mille fleur=  wheaten or brown , gold, columbian, and mottling

golden neck = wheaten or brown , gold, columbian, and mottling + dominant white  or

                        wheaten or brown , gold, columbian, and mottling + two blue genes (splash)


heres how to make one

http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=269942




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The dominant white or splash replace the black pigment in the mille fleur pattern with white.

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Breeder & Exhibitor of fine silkies in recognized and project varieties.
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post #4 of 9
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Thanks SO much - your info answered SO many of my questions!  However, I do still have a few more (and since I don't know what other breeds Golden Necks might apply to, these questions pertain only to d'uccles):

1.  How does one know if they have a dominant white type Golden Neck, or a splash type Golden Neck?  Can they be visually identified, or do they have to be bred to find out?

2.  I'm assuming splash type Golden Necks should only be bred to other splash type Golden Necks, regular mille fleurs, or blue mille fleurs?  But in the case of the dominant white type, what other color can it be bred to without muddying up the genes (other than other dominant white type Golden Necks)?

3.  What would one get if they crossed a dominant white type Golden Neck with a porcelain?

Thanks again -

Kat ~ Fox Hill Farm
LF: Tolbunt Polish, BLRW's, BBS/BW Ameraucanas & EE's
Bantams: Polish, cochins, silkies, seramas & modern games
Plus mandarins, muscovies, guineas, and a herd of turtles!!!
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Kat ~ Fox Hill Farm
LF: Tolbunt Polish, BLRW's, BBS/BW Ameraucanas & EE's
Bantams: Polish, cochins, silkies, seramas & modern games
Plus mandarins, muscovies, guineas, and a herd of turtles!!!
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post #5 of 9
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Originally Posted by TurtleFeathers 

Thanks SO much - your info answered SO many of my questions!  However, I do still have a few more (and since I don't know what other breeds Golden Necks might apply to, these questions pertain only to d'uccles):

1.  How does one know if they have a dominant white type Golden Neck, or a splash type Golden Neck?  Can they be visually identified, or do they have to be bred to find out?

2.  I'm assuming splash type Golden Necks should only be bred to other splash type Golden Necks, regular mille fleurs, or blue mille fleurs?  But in the case of the dominant white type, what other color can it be bred to without muddying up the genes (other than other dominant white type Golden Necks)?

3.  What would one get if they crossed a dominant white type Golden Neck with a porcelain?

Thanks again -


Check the tail. Most of the time splash is not a clean white color but is a very light gray color and tends to show black. On the other hand two dominant white gene or even one dominant white gene in a bird will produce a white tail. Dominant white birds can show black in their tails which can be a pepper to a whole black feather but with the rest of the tail being white.

Golden necks can have a clean white tails with splash or dominant white it just depends on the line and if the birds have been carefully bred for the trait.

If you purchase the birds just ask the breeder, they should know.



splash gold neck X splash gold neck =  splash gold neck

splash gold neck X blue millie = splash gold neck and  blue millie

splash gold neck X millie= blue millie


homozygous means two dominant white genes         heterozygous means only one dominant white gene




homozygous dominant white golden neck X millie = heterozygous dominant white golden neck (birds may have some black in the tail)

homozygous dominant white golden neck X blue millie = heterozygous dominant white golden neck (birds have some blue in the tail)
                                                                                         
                                                                                         heterozygous dominant white golden neck (birds may have some black in the tail)


heterozygous dominant white golden neck X millie = heterozygous dominant white golden neck (birds may have some black in the tail)
                                                                                   regular millie

heterozygous dominant white golden neck X blue millie = heterozygous dominant white golden neck (birds may have some black in the tail)
                                                                                           regular millie
                                                                                           heterozygous dominant white golden neck (birds may have some blue in the tail)
                                                                                           blue millie

homozygous dominant white gold neck X porcelain(clean lavender tail)= golden neck ( there is the possibility of black in the tail)

heterozygous  dominant white gold neck X porcelain(clean lavender tail)= golden neck ( there is the possibility of black in the tail)
                                                                                                                     regular millie


Hope this helps.

Tim


Edited by tadkerson - 1/22/10 at 6:41am




 

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post #6 of 9
Thread Starter 

It DOES help - thank you SO MUCH!!!  (and I apologize for the delayed response!)

Kat ~ Fox Hill Farm
LF: Tolbunt Polish, BLRW's, BBS/BW Ameraucanas & EE's
Bantams: Polish, cochins, silkies, seramas & modern games
Plus mandarins, muscovies, guineas, and a herd of turtles!!!
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Kat ~ Fox Hill Farm
LF: Tolbunt Polish, BLRW's, BBS/BW Ameraucanas & EE's
Bantams: Polish, cochins, silkies, seramas & modern games
Plus mandarins, muscovies, guineas, and a herd of turtles!!!
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post #7 of 9

just marking..

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Does anyone know if ideal uses Dom white or blue?

Lorilyn Farms is NPIP certified. Breeding for SQ d'uccles,project is dun mille fleur  and citron mille fleurs d'uccles- no stock or eggs available at this time except project eggs. Soon to be raising heritage turkey stock for free-range, Thanksgiving goodness in the Rogue River area!

Everything free ranges!

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Lorilyn Farms is NPIP certified. Breeding for SQ d'uccles,project is dun mille fleur  and citron mille fleurs d'uccles- no stock or eggs available at this time except project eggs. Soon to be raising heritage turkey stock for free-range, Thanksgiving goodness in the Rogue River area!

Everything free ranges!

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post #9 of 9
My golden neck roo from Ideal has some black tail feathers, if that helps.
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