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How do I tell the difference between a Welsummer Pullet & Cock?

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Hi, can anyone tell me how to tell the difference between a young Welsummer Pullet & Cock?  I have a Welsummer that we bought as a chick.  It was supposed to be a pullet but now at about 12-15 wks, it is starting to get green feathers in its tail and at the base of its neck.  I am starting to wonder if we have got ourselves a cock?

Mum to 2 beautiful children, 1 Golden Retriever, 1 Miniature Chihuahua, 1 Cat, 2 Araucana, 1 Frizzle, 2 Welsummer, 4 Plymouth Rock, 7 Light Sussex, 2 Langshan Bantam, 2 GLW, 2 Pekin, 2 Silkies, 3 Barnvelder, 1 Orpington and an assortment of chicks.
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Mum to 2 beautiful children, 1 Golden Retriever, 1 Miniature Chihuahua, 1 Cat, 2 Araucana, 1 Frizzle, 2 Welsummer, 4 Plymouth Rock, 7 Light Sussex, 2 Langshan Bantam, 2 GLW, 2 Pekin, 2 Silkies, 3 Barnvelder, 1 Orpington and an assortment of chicks.
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post #2 of 17

you may. The females have a sort of speckledy brown body, whereas the cocks have solid red black and green feathers. if it has solid colored red feathers on the back, it is a rooster. Sorry.

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When it first got its feathers they were speckledy brown, it looked just like the pictures I had looked at, but she (or he) has started to change.  The feathers on the back are red, but there is a darker colour, near black mixed in there.  Her neck is the same dark colour and so is the tail.  But these dark areas on the neck and tail are developing green feathers.  She (or he) doesn't look anything like the photos that I have looked at.  Its either developing the rooster colouring or it hasn't been purebreed.

Mum to 2 beautiful children, 1 Golden Retriever, 1 Miniature Chihuahua, 1 Cat, 2 Araucana, 1 Frizzle, 2 Welsummer, 4 Plymouth Rock, 7 Light Sussex, 2 Langshan Bantam, 2 GLW, 2 Pekin, 2 Silkies, 3 Barnvelder, 1 Orpington and an assortment of chicks.
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Mum to 2 beautiful children, 1 Golden Retriever, 1 Miniature Chihuahua, 1 Cat, 2 Araucana, 1 Frizzle, 2 Welsummer, 4 Plymouth Rock, 7 Light Sussex, 2 Langshan Bantam, 2 GLW, 2 Pekin, 2 Silkies, 3 Barnvelder, 1 Orpington and an assortment of chicks.
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post #4 of 17

Sounds very much like a  rooster.

Here are some pictures of my rooster growing up, for reference:

Day 1:
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/25978_chicks_day0116.jpg

About a week, I think:
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/25978_chick5_small.jpg

About two weeks (see the dark feathers starting just forward of the wings):
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/25978_chick5_small2.jpg

Maybe 4 weeks; it's really obvious at this point (sorry I can't remember the exact dates on these; I'm working on what's already uploaded as I'm on my work laptop at the moment):
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/25978_chick5_smallb.jpg

Here's one of the ladies at the same time, for comparison:
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/25978_chick7_smallb.jpg

16 weeks, next to one of the Wellie girls (Edit: here's me not paying attention -- he's next to BOTH of the Wellie girls):
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/25978_s5030680.jpg

Now:
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/25978_roo02.jpg


Edited by Uzuri - 1/24/10 at 7:29am
post #5 of 17

I have some pics of my Welsummers at about that age. 

Here are the girls.

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj239/lauralou2202/welsummers/100_3017.jpg

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj239/lauralou2202/welsummers/100_3168.jpg

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj239/lauralou2202/welsummers/100_2983.jpg


They do have black in the tail, but it's not the glossy green black that roosters get.  No black feathers in the neck area either.  Just black markings on goldish feathers.

Here are the roosters.

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj239/lauralou2202/welsummers/100_2987.jpg

(Ignore the girl on the right.  Look at the four roosters on the left.  They are about 15 weeks old in this pic.)

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj239/lauralou2202/welsummers/100_3055.jpg

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj239/lauralou2202/welsummers/100_3046.jpg

Here's a younger roo, about 12 weeks old.  He is losing his speckledy brown body feathers and growing in dark red feathers on the body.  That's a girl right in front of him, with head cut off walking out of the picture.  She's brown, he's red.

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj239/lauralou2202/welsummers/100_3003.jpg

Hope that was helpful!  smile

post #6 of 17
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Thanks everyone.  Photos have  been very helpful.  I think I have a rooster.   sad  darn........  Can't have roosters where I am.  Suppose it makes room for one more hen though.D

Mum to 2 beautiful children, 1 Golden Retriever, 1 Miniature Chihuahua, 1 Cat, 2 Araucana, 1 Frizzle, 2 Welsummer, 4 Plymouth Rock, 7 Light Sussex, 2 Langshan Bantam, 2 GLW, 2 Pekin, 2 Silkies, 3 Barnvelder, 1 Orpington and an assortment of chicks.
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Mum to 2 beautiful children, 1 Golden Retriever, 1 Miniature Chihuahua, 1 Cat, 2 Araucana, 1 Frizzle, 2 Welsummer, 4 Plymouth Rock, 7 Light Sussex, 2 Langshan Bantam, 2 GLW, 2 Pekin, 2 Silkies, 3 Barnvelder, 1 Orpington and an assortment of chicks.
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post #7 of 17
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Here is a photo.  What do you think?  Rooster?
[img][/img]  Ok, no photo.  How do you insert an image.....................

Mum to 2 beautiful children, 1 Golden Retriever, 1 Miniature Chihuahua, 1 Cat, 2 Araucana, 1 Frizzle, 2 Welsummer, 4 Plymouth Rock, 7 Light Sussex, 2 Langshan Bantam, 2 GLW, 2 Pekin, 2 Silkies, 3 Barnvelder, 1 Orpington and an assortment of chicks.
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Mum to 2 beautiful children, 1 Golden Retriever, 1 Miniature Chihuahua, 1 Cat, 2 Araucana, 1 Frizzle, 2 Welsummer, 4 Plymouth Rock, 7 Light Sussex, 2 Langshan Bantam, 2 GLW, 2 Pekin, 2 Silkies, 3 Barnvelder, 1 Orpington and an assortment of chicks.
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post #8 of 17

You need to upload photo to BYC.  Link is next to Recent Posts up top in blue.  Then copy and paste.

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Chickens Blog http://bmvchickens.wordpress.com/

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Tamara   breeding Partridge Plymouth Rocks
owned by 2 English Shepherd farm dogs 2 cats and 1 loving husband

Chickens Blog http://bmvchickens.wordpress.com/

http://www.bluemoonvalley.com/  Our farm website

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post #9 of 17

Good looking pics. I do love that wels breed!

1 turtle, 2 kids, 2 cats, 3 dogs, 12 fish, 2 roos, and 21 hens. 
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1 turtle, 2 kids, 2 cats, 3 dogs, 12 fish, 2 roos, and 21 hens. 
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post #10 of 17

lauralou, off topic, your SLW are beautiful!

Engaged to one amazing man, and mother of 1 DS, one intimidating kitty, 1 tiny kitten, 4 Cubalaya Bantams, 2 Buff Brahmas, 2 Barred Rocks, 1 Buff Orpington, 1 Easter Egger, 1 Gold Sex Link, 1 White Leghorn, 2 Black Australorps, and 4 question marks.

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Engaged to one amazing man, and mother of 1 DS, one intimidating kitty, 1 tiny kitten, 4 Cubalaya Bantams, 2 Buff Brahmas, 2 Barred Rocks, 1 Buff Orpington, 1 Easter Egger, 1 Gold Sex Link, 1 White Leghorn, 2 Black Australorps, and 4 question marks.

Yes, I am a pierced, tattooed, metal, chicken lover! I would rather be in my garden then in a bar any day of the week.
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