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Thank you everyone for the great advice about separating my colors for breeding. I will take the boys out and collect the eggs to eat till don't see any more bulls eyes... I'm in no rush formy first babies from my own flock.

Great advice people...thank you...

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Originally Posted by littlecritters View Post

I wonder if there is a more natural or organic approach to killing lices and mites? When I did a googled search, I found that Carbaryl is pretty potent ---> "Carbaryl is a cholinesterase inhibitor and is toxic to humans. It is classified as a likely human carcinogen by the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA.)"
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Not in the quantities that it is in Sevin.  It is only 5%, and the rest is talcum powder.  This powder was actually first designed FOR the poultry industry.  There is not going to be any other way to get rid of mites or lice without just picking them up yourself.  I had to rescue baby birds last week when the nest came down.  I put the nest back, but when I was examining the birds, they had their eyes closed and no feathers-- they were being eating alive with mites.  Thousands of them were crawling over their little pink bodies and making it look like their bodies were twitching with mites, it was disgusting.  The next thing I knew, I had mites by the hundreds crawling up my hands and onto my arms.  I ran to the house and grabbed the Sevin dust.  I poured it into my hand and lightly sprinkled the babies and the nest (and rubbed my arms with it) and a few minutes later-- no more mites, the babies are fine and alive and probably feel better than they ever did before.  You are going to come up against a lot of controversy with using any kind of chemical on yourself or an animal.  I have always been a naturalist, and I am SERIOUS about it.  I cloth diapered my babies, nursed them for a year each, delayed vaccines, and use natural methods for anything that I can. We eat naturally, and you will not find store bought cookies or chips in my home, and I stay informed.  However... there comes a time you must use your common sense as well.  And when you see an animal dying of mites and you can fix it in a matter of a couple of minutes with little to no risk to the animal.. and with no known side effects...  I prefer not to see anyone suffer.   

 

"The EPA's own data from their Integrated Risk Information System (IRIS) shows just how safe Carbaryl (Sevin) really is. In order for Carbaryl to even affect a human, 5.48 mg/day. It has a moderate to low mammalian toxicity. It is not considered to be an oncegen (tending to cause tumors). It is a weak mutagen (tending to cause mutations) and available data indicates that it has only low teratogenic potential (causes extreme malformations or monstrosities). Carbaryl is not expected to contaminate groundwater. While it is extremely toxic to aquatic invertebrates and honeybees, it has only low toxicity to birds. An important aspect of Carbaryl is how quickly it breaks down and is redered harmless. Its insecticidal properties are lost after 3-10 days. Most animals, including humans, readily break down carbaryl and rapidly excrete 75% of it in 24 hours. Data suggests that there is low to very low toxicity to birds.1"

---https://purplemartin.org/forumarchives/archive/sevinpro.htm

 

This is only one website-- if you continue to google it, (both sides) you will start to have a better idea to make up your own mind.  wink.png

 

LittleCritters, after re-reading my post, I do want to apologize for coming across blunt and even on the offensive.  I hope you will forgive my rudeness!  My intent was not to attack you for your reasonable question.  Here recently on another thread, there was a person who had their bird die on them for being overwhelmed with mites and they did not want to use a chemical,  and refused to use a treatment that was known to work well.  It had put me in the wrong frame of mind for answering your question.  I do hope you can find a great natural alternative for killing mites!  smile.png  I will be much more supportive of your questions!  

 

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Originally Posted by littlecritters View Post

I wonder if there is a more natural or organic approach to killing lices and mites? When I did a googled search, I found that Carbaryl is pretty potent ---> "Carbaryl is a cholinesterase inhibitor and is toxic to humans. It is classified as a likely human carcinogen by the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA.)"

 

Coconut oil.

 

I had some lice on my layers and we sprayed melted coconut oil on them and the lice all died. So did the eggs.

 

We had a lice outbreak in my silkie pen and just treated them with coconut oil again. We will spray/rub coconut oil on the infected areas every other day for a week or so and then give them a bath. Seriously, it works wonders.

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I've had two different hatches.  One from catdance, you saw those pictures a ways back on the thread.   And now, I have some that I got from marneypoo..  Martha

  So, get ready for some cute picture overload, I only took a picture of a few different ones, but they all look pretty much the same.  Sorry about the blurry partridge pictures..not sure why they did that.

 

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   This one needs the feathers cut back already.  Need to find some blunt end scissors, quick!

 

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    Same baby, nice foot feathering ey?030.JPG

      One of the partridge, foot feathers!

 

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    The darker buff..where's those scissors?!   I separate the feathers every now and again for

        now.

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               Quite the muff

 

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     Precious!

 

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   This is the partridge I'm keeping.  :))042.JPG

    Blurry, but you can see how pretty..another little precious baby. This one is the smallest of

      the two, hoping it's a girl.  I know, may not matter.  Just crossing fingers though.  :)

 

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  This is a lighter buff, the one I am keeping.  "she" stole my heart over the darker one.  048.JPG

   Same chick..mine!   Little fluff ball!

  Martha, thank you for these cuties.   I consider 10 healthy chicks a good hatch for shipped eggs.  I could so buy more now and have them all sold.  There just aren't any Silkies for sale out here.  But, I think I worry about the heat now. So, come fall, I sure hope you are still selling

 these beautiful eggs/babies. 

    You have probably seen what stole my heart in the beginning..my blue splash that I kept from my first hatch from you.  Never thought I wanted a Silkie, did the hatch for others, but I kept the blue splash.

   In case you haven't seen a picture of "her", and maybe, since it is one of yours, you can tell if this one is looking like a girl?  At 13 weeks in this picture.  Some say yes.  :)

 

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      I keep getting those feathers out of the way too!

 

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    "She" is just beautiful. I'm so glad I found some of your eggs for sale!    What do you think?

    Too early to tell yet?   Looking forward to buying from you in the fall, I hope.  :)

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Originally Posted by KMHunter View Post



I would like to know about everyones experience in adding to your silkie flock. Or putting different age chicks together. How are Silkies at that? Are they as mean as other breeds? Is there a serious pecking order?

I have 4 week olds and am hatching some, due anyday now. At what point do you think it would be ok to put them in the same x-large brooder, then into the coop.

I have a seperate brooder right now, but my end goal is to wait on putting them into the coop I have until all of them can go outside.

Any ideas?

 

 

Right now I have two silkies (Peepblessed) that are about tow months old in with two LF Polish of just six weeks old and have added a few chicks that I hatch out from older birds. The chicks were accepted fine and were kept warm at night by the four older birds all snuggled together. Even now that they are a little bigger they all snuggle together. I thing the polish would like to sleep up on the roost but they eventully go down with the other. We are very hot here, 110 degrees today. I let they take dust baths in wet sand to cool down.  

 

I have one silkie rooster who does well in a mixed flock of four bantam hens, NN, polish and ameraucana. He is very interested in keeping everyone in line and he has no trouble with the big hens either. He is from CJsilkies in Pa and is a rather big guy for a silkie but pretty nice to silkie standard.  I did trim fuzzy around his eyes and butt though and have had good fertility with him so far. 

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Originally Posted by littlecritters View Post

I wonder if there is a more natural or organic approach to killing lices and mites? When I did a googled search, I found that Carbaryl is pretty potent ---> "Carbaryl is a cholinesterase inhibitor and is toxic to humans. It is classified as a likely human carcinogen by the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA.)"

Not in the quantities that it is in Sevin.  It is only 5%, and the rest is talcum powder.  This powder was actually first designed FOR the poultry industry.  There is not going to be any other way to get rid of mites or lice without just picking them up yourself.  I had to rescue baby birds last week when the nest came down.  I put the nest back, but when I was examining the birds, they had their eyes closed and no feathers-- they were being eating alive with mites.  Thousands of them were crawling over their little pink bodies and making it look like their bodies were twitching with mites, it was disgusting.  The next thing I knew, I had mites by the hundreds crawling up my hands and onto my arms.  I ran to the house and grabbed the Sevin dust.  I poured it into my hand and lightly sprinkled the babies and the nest (and rubbed my arms with it) and a few minutes later-- no more mites, the babies are fine and alive and probably feel better than they ever did before.  You are going to come up against a lot of controversy with using any kind of chemical on yourself or an animal.  I have always been a naturalist, and I am SERIOUS about it.  I cloth diapered my babies, nursed them for a year each, delayed vaccines, and use natural methods for anything that I can. We eat naturally, and you will not find store bought cookies or chips in my home, and I stay informed.  However... there comes a time you must use your common sense as well.  And when you see an animal dying of mites and you can fix it in a matter of a couple of minutes with little to no risk to the animal.. and with no known side effects...  I prefer not to see anyone suffer.   

 

"The EPA's own data from their Integrated Risk Information System (IRIS) shows just how safe Carbaryl (Sevin) really is. In order for Carbaryl to even affect a human, 5.48 mg/day. It has a moderate to low mammalian toxicity. It is not considered to be an oncegen (tending to cause tumors). It is a weak mutagen (tending to cause mutations) and available data indicates that it has only low teratogenic potential (causes extreme malformations or monstrosities). Carbaryl is not expected to contaminate groundwater. While it is extremely toxic to aquatic invertebrates and honeybees, it has only low toxicity to birds. An important aspect of Carbaryl is how quickly it breaks down and is redered harmless. Its insecticidal properties are lost after 3-10 days. Most animals, including humans, readily break down carbaryl and rapidly excrete 75% of it in 24 hours. Data suggests that there is low to very low toxicity to birds.1"

---https://purplemartin.org/forumarchives/archive/sevinpro.htm

 

This is only one website-- if you continue to google it, (both sides) you will start to have a better idea to make up your own mind.  wink.png

While I generally prefer sevin, I do alternate it with permethrin dust, which is equally fast acting, and is easier to find in larger packages.

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adult and started pairs occasionally available;
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Have any of you come across a Silkie chick with hard feathering like this before? This is one of my 2 week old Blue Silkie chicks. Is there a chance they could come in right later?

It's a silkie cross, not pure silkie.  It could end up really cute, but it won;t have silkie feathers.

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adult and started pairs occasionally available;
   No eggs or chicks. 
Support your local poultry clubs, breed clubs, ABA & APA!

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adult and started pairs occasionally available;
   No eggs or chicks. 
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It's a silkie cross, not pure silkie.  It could end up really cute, but it won;t have silkie feathers.

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