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post #1461 of 1903

The very early 1900s were a hard time for the Dominique - breeders were torn between the larger type fowl closer to the plymouth rock body size and the original more medium sized birds. Traditionalists won out and convinced the APA to change the standard to fit the more medium sized birds with 7lb cock birds. 

Work with my business partner on American Dominiques in large fowl and bantam,

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Work with my business partner on American Dominiques in large fowl and bantam,

also keep a few Black Sumatras in large fowl and Coturnix Quail in Tibetan and Tibetan Tuxedo.

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post #1462 of 1903

So, another question about the dominiue standard.

 

They absolutely aren't supposed to have a Beard and Muffs, right?

 

I have a little one from a batch of Dom chicks that i'm certain is an americauna cross. It is, however barred and does have a rose comb.

 

I am, of course, joking with my question. Just thought it was interesting how many of the traits were passed on.

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post #1463 of 1903

Been quiet on this thread for a while...

 

Ran across this in some light reading....

 

From the journals of the Lewis and Clarke expedition.

 

Capt. Lewis, March 3, 1806--The large black and white

pheasant is peculiar to that portion of the Rocky Mountain watered

by the Columbia river. ................... the feathers of the body are of a dark

brown black and white. the black is that which predominates, and

white feathers are irregularly intermixed with those of the black

and dark brown on every part, but in greater proportion about the

neck breast and belley. this mixture gives it very much the

appearance of that kind of dunghill fowl which the henwives of our

country call dommanicker (Domanique)..................... (Bold added)

W K Smith

Windy Ridge Dominiques

American Dominique LF chickens

DCA, ALBC, NPIP CO-124

Southwest El Paso County, CO

 

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W K Smith

Windy Ridge Dominiques

American Dominique LF chickens

DCA, ALBC, NPIP CO-124

Southwest El Paso County, CO

 

ChickenFest 2013

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post #1464 of 1903

AWWWW, thats downright mean.  Mine are pretty sweet birds.  First ones I've had that will hop up on my lap all on their own just to see whats going on.  I like em.  Got 16, 2 are cockerels. 

I have a mixed flock of 14: (2 are roosters)  1  Barred Rock, 2 Black sex-link, 2 lt Brahma, 1 buff Chantecler, 4 Rh Island Red, and 4 pure Canadian white Chantecler.  Addition:  April 2013 Midget White turkeys!!!  5 of them left to raise.     One broody raising 9 little mixes. 

 

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I have a mixed flock of 14: (2 are roosters)  1  Barred Rock, 2 Black sex-link, 2 lt Brahma, 1 buff Chantecler, 4 Rh Island Red, and 4 pure Canadian white Chantecler.  Addition:  April 2013 Midget White turkeys!!!  5 of them left to raise.     One broody raising 9 little mixes. 

 

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post #1465 of 1903

Not meant to be mean, but as an early description of Doms from 1806. Capt Lewis used the Domineckers to decsribe the spruce grouse, because it was familiar to him, and probably would be to most of the future readers. Domineckers were very common, and it appears that they were frequently refferred to as Dunghill fowl, probably due to the fact that they hung out on the compost piles eating bugs and seeds commonly found there.

W K Smith

Windy Ridge Dominiques

American Dominique LF chickens

DCA, ALBC, NPIP CO-124

Southwest El Paso County, CO

 

ChickenFest 2013

http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/763649/colorado-chickenfest-2013

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W K Smith

Windy Ridge Dominiques

American Dominique LF chickens

DCA, ALBC, NPIP CO-124

Southwest El Paso County, CO

 

ChickenFest 2013

http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/763649/colorado-chickenfest-2013

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post #1466 of 1903
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Originally Posted by wsmith View Post

Been quiet on this thread for a while...

 

Ran across this in some light reading....

 

From the journals of the Lewis and Clarke expedition.

 

Capt. Lewis, March 3, 1806--The large black and white

pheasant is peculiar to that portion of the Rocky Mountain watered

by the Columbia river. ................... the feathers of the body are of a dark

brown black and white. the black is that which predominates, and

white feathers are irregularly intermixed with those of the black

and dark brown on every part, but in greater proportion about the

neck breast and belley. this mixture gives it very much the

appearance of that kind of dunghill fowl which the henwives of our

country call dommanicker (Domanique)..................... (Bold added)

Sounds a lot like the description I have read on the Chukar.

 

 

Chukar (Alectoris  chukar) 
Identification:  This  species is  the  size of  a large quail, but  has strongly barred black and white flanks and a white throat and face, surrounded by a black band.  
The  repeated chuck  or  chuck-or  call  is  a  good fieldmark.  Normally limited to rocky slopes  and canyons. 
Status:  A  local permanent  resident in arid lands of  southern Idaho and Wyoming; reported in the mountain parks only as a vagrant; reportedly once casual in Rocky Mount a in N.P.,
 
Chris

 

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NPIP # 31-516
Society for the Preservation of Poultry Antiquities http://sppa.webs.com/

Breeding Large Fowl Single and Rose Comb Rhode Island Reds to APA Standard


"I know of no pursuit in which more real and important services can be rendered to any country than by improving its agriculture, its breed of useful animals, and other branches of a husbandman's cares." – 

George Washington

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post #1467 of 1903
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Originally Posted by wsmith View Post

Not meant to be mean, but as an early description of Doms from 1806. Capt Lewis used the Domineckers to decsribe the spruce grouse, because it was familiar to him, and probably would be to most of the future readers. Domineckers were very common, and it appears that they were frequently refferred to as Dunghill fowl, probably due to the fact that they hung out on the compost piles eating bugs and seeds commonly found there.

A dunghill fowl is a chicken that will not fight. (the term was used in the gamefowl world). Basically they were saying a bird was a pile of crap.

 

 

Chris

 

NPIP # 31-516
Society for the Preservation of Poultry Antiquities http://sppa.webs.com/

Breeding Large Fowl Single and Rose Comb Rhode Island Reds to APA Standard


"I know of no pursuit in which more real and important services can be rendered to any country than by improving its agriculture, its breed of useful animals, and other branches of a husbandman's cares." – 

George Washington

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NPIP # 31-516
Society for the Preservation of Poultry Antiquities http://sppa.webs.com/

Breeding Large Fowl Single and Rose Comb Rhode Island Reds to APA Standard


"I know of no pursuit in which more real and important services can be rendered to any country than by improving its agriculture, its breed of useful animals, and other branches of a husbandman's cares." – 

George Washington

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post #1468 of 1903
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Originally Posted by Chris09 View Post

A dunghill fowl is a chicken that will not fight. (the term was used in the gamefowl world). Basically they were saying a bird was a pile of crap.

 

 

Chris

While that is true in  the Game Fowl world, prior to the 1870's you see Dunghill fowls mentioned in ledgers, journals, etc.  Here is an interesting exerpt
http://books.google.com/books?id=GiTcAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA328&dq=dunghill+fowl&hl=en&sa=X&ei=GPzhT7uPD-iV0QHP0LjgAw&ved=0CDMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=dunghill%20fowl&f=false

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Breeding American Dominiques, Red Dorkings, & Nankins
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post #1469 of 1903

Dave V.
www.vnsseed.com
Breeding American Dominiques, Red Dorkings, & Nankins
NPIP #12-215....Follow my breeding project @ http://www.facebook.com/VNSSEED

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Dave V.
www.vnsseed.com
Breeding American Dominiques, Red Dorkings, & Nankins
NPIP #12-215....Follow my breeding project @ http://www.facebook.com/VNSSEED

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post #1470 of 1903
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Originally Posted by Chris09 View Post

A dunghill fowl is a chicken that will not fight. (the term was used in the gamefowl world). Basically they were saying a bird was a pile of crap.

 

 

Chris

 Chris,

 

I disagree with that as the only criteria. My grandma (born in 1893, died in 1991) referred to chickens that roamed around and scratched in the manure piles as dunghill fowl. She never raised Gamefowl. I personally feel it is a general term applied to common yard chickens as well.

W K Smith

Windy Ridge Dominiques

American Dominique LF chickens

DCA, ALBC, NPIP CO-124

Southwest El Paso County, CO

 

ChickenFest 2013

http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/763649/colorado-chickenfest-2013

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W K Smith

Windy Ridge Dominiques

American Dominique LF chickens

DCA, ALBC, NPIP CO-124

Southwest El Paso County, CO

 

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http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/763649/colorado-chickenfest-2013

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