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 has anyone used horse manure compost

 for gardening we use it but mushrooms

 are growing out of it also

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I haven't used horse manure, but if you're interested in llama manure let me know.  Here's some info on it http://www.hidog.info/LlamaManure.html  We have plenty produced daily.  tongue.png

 

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The best things in life aren't things!
Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction!
15 Horses, 7 Llamas, 2 Goats, 6 Dogs, 5 Cats, 5 Serama roosters, and 2 Desert Tortoises

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post #26483 of 36901
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I had someone message this link to an article.  In particular, I found the de-crowing information interesting, and started wondering if perhaps the simplest/least expensive/safest de-crowing method might be to give female hormones?  I guess the questions are how safe is it really, and the extent to which it would affect fertility of the rooster.

 

http://www2.ca.uky.edu/afspoultry-files/pubs/Anatomy_Respiratory.pdf

 

That was a good review of the avian respiratory tract.  A very interesting question about female hormones being used for chemical de-crowing.   Seems that it was done early on with an aim to fatten up chickens faster.   Depending on what hormone, dosage and age administered, estrogens can certainly disrupt male behavior.  The problem seems to be disruption of testes development/atrophy along with the crowing behavior.   A more modern study showed that exposing males to estradiol while incubating reduced the crowing behavior in adults without disrupting gonad size.  Treated and untreated adult males also had similar circulating testosterone levels.   Interestingly, in the same study, they showed that treatment of females (while incubating) with aromatase inhibitor (aromatase is the hormone that converts androgen to estrogen) causes them to crow in adulthood.  I guess the trick is to identify males while they are still in the egg.  Otherwise, it seems to be a relatively simple thing to do.  I'd like to read the whole study.
 

 


Hmmm, so basically something more or less equivalent to amniocentesis for chicken eggs to determine gender, then treat the males.  I was actually wondering if hormones would reduce crowing if given to adult males rather than males who are still developing.

 

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Breeder & Exhibitor of fine silkies in Black, Blue, Splash, Grey, Partridge & Lavender.  Working on Dun, Mottled, Partridge dilutions, Paint, Porcelain & other exciting new colours
adult and started pairs occasionally available;
   No eggs or chicks. 
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post #26484 of 36901

I'd better not let that box get near me. I'm the kiss of death to plants. I''m afraid I would scare the germination right out of those seed!
 

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The seed box is an AZ BYC exclusive.  

 

It is passed around to those of us (NOT Mikey) who have green thumbs and seeds are added and removed as you see fit.

 

Sounds like a bunch of fun for those people that can plant something and have it live more than a week.  he.gif

 



 

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Hmmm, so basically something more or less equivalent to amniocentesis for chicken eggs to determine gender, then treat the males.  I was actually wondering if hormones would reduce crowing if given to adult males rather than males who are still developing.

 

 

Yep, they probably aspirate a small sample to do a karyotype and examine the chromosomes to sex the embryos or maybe they can pcr the sample to determine sex.  Those are just guesses though, I'd like to read the methods.   To answer your last question, yes you could treat adult males with estrogen, but testes would shrink.  With regression of testes, one would expect lower testosterone production and most likely lower sperm production and likely a lower reproductive drive.   So, less crowing, but also less sperm production and less mating activity. 
 

 

I just did a quick search and it looks like they use PCR to get the sex of developing embryos.  Tough to do at home, lots of specialized equipment.  lol.png

 


Edited by Gallo del Cielo - 4/12/12 at 8:24pm

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Check out my award winning feed saving treadle feeder

Thinking about raising mealworms?  Here's how I do it

Got poultry ticks?

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post #26486 of 36901

 

 

Just in case anyone needs a cute fix tonight...here is another Serama chick peeping video!  

 

Check out the little wing feathers and tail on Uno!  Duo is doing well too, but has more strawberry blonde coloring (will try and get a video tomorrow).  The third egg is pretty much a dud, but we decided to just wait for the weekend to pull it out.

 

 

 

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Holy Cow we have a lot of birds around here!!!

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The Ladies - 3 MFDs, NH, GLW,  2 EEs, 1 buff Brahma, 3 OEGBs, 2 Modern Games.  5 Seramas including Cujo the Stealth Roo and his son, 3 Serama/mix pullets plus 2 eternally naughty Pacific Parrotlets.   caf.gif   

 

Holy Cow we have a lot of birds around here!!!

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yesss.gifI did win the Short Story Contest! Thanks to all of you!wee.gif

 

Bootsie, Thank you I will try again with some Ameraucana eggs but a smaller amount. I want to try again before I get those Serima eggs. I am so afraid I will loose them! What happened to my hatch! I hatched Aurorarose eggs just fine with little loss. The only thing I did differantly with Aurorarose eggs is that is candled them at 14 days and that is what it look like they developed to until they died, or a day or so after. Aurorarose eggs I didn't candle until lockdown. Both eggs batches I hand turned. Any one have an idea what happened? 

My bator is a LG still air. As I said my first hatch was wonderful in it!Oh one more thing I remembered. The Easter Egg batch was a lot larger than the first batch I hatch. Could I have had to many eggs in that kind of bator?



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Anyone heard from Meg lately?


No, but at last count she was going to try a small coop and stay low-pro.

 

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The seed box is an AZ BYC exclusive.  

 

It is passed around to those of us (NOT Mikey) who have green thumbs and seeds are added and removed as you see fit.

 

Sounds like a bunch of fun for those people that can plant something and have it live more than a week.  he.gif

 


Cool.  Next time the box makes its way to Tucson I've got some seeds to contribute. 

 

Hey, Mikey, you know you can combine welding and gardening.  The trick is to weld a bunch of really cool trellises and plant stuff under them.  Then when the plants die you still have a nifty garden of yard art.  tongue.png


I'll try to post some more picts this weekend..

 

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Pappa's Peepers - back in business!!!

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Pappa's Peepers - back in business!!!

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All I can say is, WOW.  I bow to you, o centipede master!  Pretty cool prickly pears, too.

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I'll try to post some more picts this weekend..

 

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