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Does anyone have any opinions on keeping a pheasant with guineafowl? Do they get along etc and are there any diseases that I should be worried about the guineas getting from the pheasant


The first thing you need to do is check your state laws concerning having pheasants.  In my state, a permit from the G&F is required to have any type of pheasant.  The permit has to be acquired before any pheasants are obtained.  One step in getting a pheasant permit here is that the property and housing has to pass the G&F inspection.  Part of that requires that where they are to be kept must be escape proof. That includes a run/flight pen that is covered by netting to prevent escape by flight and wire buried in the ground to prevent digging out.

 

This type of set up is not required for guineas but might not be a bad idea.  When I had pheasants, I kept them separated from the chickens and turkeys (didn't have guineas at the time). 

 

I suspect that if kept in the proper quantities with lots of personal space that the guineas would keep to themselves as would the pheasants.  If kept in cramped quarters as so many people seem to try, I don't think it would go well with either species.

Welsummers, mixed breed chickens, Blue Slate turkeys and a few guineas.

In wonderful Wyoming.

Bob

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Welsummers, mixed breed chickens, Blue Slate turkeys and a few guineas.

In wonderful Wyoming.

Bob

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I have used game bird feed 24% from the start but someone on this site said I should be giving them amprolium so I thought well...i guess i will have to get some medicated feed (which is lower protein as its for chicks and fryers). So i did only to find it states right on the label not to use it in conjuction with feeds that contain bentonite, or in layman's terms game bird feed. I will try to find the post.


@PeepsCA is the guinea expert.  She recommends using a medicated high protein (28 - 30% protein) turkey gamebird feed.  The medicated part is Amprolium.  Amprolium is good for preventing deaths by coccidiosis.  I do not know where she was buying her feed but medicated high protein feed is available just is not commonly carried in most places.  I assume that she had a coccidiosis problem thus the need for a medicated feed.

 

Most high protein feed is not medicated.  I use a quality non-medicated 28% protein turkey gamebird starter for my poults and keets and yes even chicks if they are in with the poults or keets.  On a rare occasion I will lose a little one to coccidiosis but it is less than 1% of the poultry that I start.  I don't feel the need to use a medicated feed for that low of a coccidiosis problem.

 

Good luck.


I bought my mob of Keets from her....   First time mail order for the both of us....  She is awesome...  but I havent seen her online in quite some time.  I think shes raising Peafowl now. 

 

She recommended medicated to me as well.  but like you couldnt find it.  and like you my environment is pretty sterile with regard to poultry.  Never had a case of Coccidosis with the chickens ever....  A round of mites yes... but that was all.

 

you can buy Amprilorium which is marketed under Corid

https://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?pgguid=30e078d9-7b6a-11d5-a192-00b0d0204ae5

dosage and label info

https://valleyvet.naccvp.com/product/view/basic/1111006?u=country&p=msds

 

Here is the drug info

https://www.drugs.com/pro/amprolium-p.html

 

Like I said I dont medicate just off hand....  Just because....  but I will medicate if its necessary.

 

too much chance of aiding in creating drug resistant bacteria or parasites

 

Its happening with us humans too.

 

deb

Past poultry: Buff Brhama, EE, Barred rock, Wellsummer,

Bantam mixes, Araucana, Turkeys, & Guinea Fowl.

Future poultry:  Guinea Fowl, Sumatra, Wellsummer, Muscovy

"A dream without a plan is just a wish" Katherine Paterson

Regarding the horses in our lives

 

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Past poultry: Buff Brhama, EE, Barred rock, Wellsummer,

Bantam mixes, Araucana, Turkeys, & Guinea Fowl.

Future poultry:  Guinea Fowl, Sumatra, Wellsummer, Muscovy

"A dream without a plan is just a wish" Katherine Paterson

Regarding the horses in our lives

 

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post #1863 of 2440
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Originally Posted by Nickeyo View Post

Does anyone have any opinions on keeping a pheasant with guineafowl? Do they get along etc and are there any diseases that I should be worried about the guineas getting from the pheasant

 

 

 

I have no idea if they can be safely raised together. BUT if you are raising ring neck pheasants expect the guineas to steal every ring off every pheasant!

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@PeepsCA is the guinea expert.  She recommends using a medicated high protein (28 - 30% protein) turkey gamebird feed.  The medicated part is Amprolium.  Amprolium is good for preventing deaths by coccidiosis.  I do not know where she was buying her feed but medicated high protein feed is available just is not commonly carried in most places.  I assume that she had a coccidiosis problem thus the need for a medicated feed.

 

Most high protein feed is not medicated.  I use a quality non-medicated 28% protein turkey gamebird starter for my poults and keets and yes even chicks if they are in with the poults or keets.  On a rare occasion I will lose a little one to coccidiosis but it is less than 1% of the poultry that I start.  I don't feel the need to use a medicated feed for that low of a coccidiosis problem.

 

Good luck.

 

 

That is exactly how I feel too. However, even though I do not feed meds I keep water soluble stuff on hand just incase.   So far (knocking on wood) I have not had a cocci problem.

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I started out with medicated starter and then moved to a non-medicated crumble. It was what was suggested by most of the locals, so I followed suit. We haven't had any medical issues with our chicks or our keets. .....:hu

 ~tracy, proud Navy Seal wife & mom to 17 chickens, 6 killer cats (Loki Boki Boca Raton, Poly Woggles Boondoggles, Greyball the Sprayball, Bentley the Monsta, Little Gurl, Baby Bagel Butt), 5 guinea hens (I'm thinking they are mobsters related to the mafia), 1 adorable but extremely skittish formerly abused doggie & a conure who fell in our yard! It's farm fair time in NJ! See: visitnj.org/art...

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 ~tracy, proud Navy Seal wife & mom to 17 chickens, 6 killer cats (Loki Boki Boca Raton, Poly Woggles Boondoggles, Greyball the Sprayball, Bentley the Monsta, Little Gurl, Baby Bagel Butt), 5 guinea hens (I'm thinking they are mobsters related to the mafia), 1 adorable but extremely skittish formerly abused doggie & a conure who fell in our yard! It's farm fair time in NJ! See: visitnj.org/art...

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I started out with medicated starter and then moved to a non-medicated crumble. It was what was suggested by most of the locals, so I followed suit. We haven't had any medical issues with our chicks or our keets. .....:hu

 

 

I found if you can sell them processed as chemical free ( no drugs or meds ) you can get a higher price and sell them faster too.

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I found if you can sell them processed as chemical free ( no drugs or meds ) you can get a higher price and sell them faster too.


all heck! we don't sell ours!!

 ~tracy, proud Navy Seal wife & mom to 17 chickens, 6 killer cats (Loki Boki Boca Raton, Poly Woggles Boondoggles, Greyball the Sprayball, Bentley the Monsta, Little Gurl, Baby Bagel Butt), 5 guinea hens (I'm thinking they are mobsters related to the mafia), 1 adorable but extremely skittish formerly abused doggie & a conure who fell in our yard! It's farm fair time in NJ! See: visitnj.org/art...

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 ~tracy, proud Navy Seal wife & mom to 17 chickens, 6 killer cats (Loki Boki Boca Raton, Poly Woggles Boondoggles, Greyball the Sprayball, Bentley the Monsta, Little Gurl, Baby Bagel Butt), 5 guinea hens (I'm thinking they are mobsters related to the mafia), 1 adorable but extremely skittish formerly abused doggie & a conure who fell in our yard! It's farm fair time in NJ! See: visitnj.org/art...

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Ours are more for severe PTSD therapy for my husband who was a Navy Seal during Noriega.

 ~tracy, proud Navy Seal wife & mom to 17 chickens, 6 killer cats (Loki Boki Boca Raton, Poly Woggles Boondoggles, Greyball the Sprayball, Bentley the Monsta, Little Gurl, Baby Bagel Butt), 5 guinea hens (I'm thinking they are mobsters related to the mafia), 1 adorable but extremely skittish formerly abused doggie & a conure who fell in our yard! It's farm fair time in NJ! See: visitnj.org/art...

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 ~tracy, proud Navy Seal wife & mom to 17 chickens, 6 killer cats (Loki Boki Boca Raton, Poly Woggles Boondoggles, Greyball the Sprayball, Bentley the Monsta, Little Gurl, Baby Bagel Butt), 5 guinea hens (I'm thinking they are mobsters related to the mafia), 1 adorable but extremely skittish formerly abused doggie & a conure who fell in our yard! It's farm fair time in NJ! See: visitnj.org/art...

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Ours are more for severe PTSD therapy for my husband who was a Navy Seal during Noriega.

:th  I live in Navy country ..... Top Gun and the BUD/S school....  Sub base, Ship yards....    I have only respect for our Seals...

 

I am hearing Chickens are great for PTSD...  but really any animal involvement is a godsend...

 

deb

Past poultry: Buff Brhama, EE, Barred rock, Wellsummer,

Bantam mixes, Araucana, Turkeys, & Guinea Fowl.

Future poultry:  Guinea Fowl, Sumatra, Wellsummer, Muscovy

"A dream without a plan is just a wish" Katherine Paterson

Regarding the horses in our lives

 

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Past poultry: Buff Brhama, EE, Barred rock, Wellsummer,

Bantam mixes, Araucana, Turkeys, & Guinea Fowl.

Future poultry:  Guinea Fowl, Sumatra, Wellsummer, Muscovy

"A dream without a plan is just a wish" Katherine Paterson

Regarding the horses in our lives

 

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:th  I live in Navy country ..... Top Gun and the BUD/S school....  Sub base, Ship yards....    I have only respect for our Seals...

 

I am hearing Chickens are great for PTSD...  but really any animal involvement is a godsend...

 

deb


Thank you!! We live 3 miles from the Fort Dix McQuire AFX Mega Base. You feel as though you can touch the belly of the huuuuumongous carrier planes as they pass over my yard!  We started with a couple cats, then a dog and then the guineas and chickens. The cats & dog helped a little, but the guineas and chickens really helped the most. Hubby rarely leaves the safe confines of our home, but with the birds, he's out tending to them daily and sometimes we get to go out and eat or something like that! For us, that's a biiig deal.

 ~tracy, proud Navy Seal wife & mom to 17 chickens, 6 killer cats (Loki Boki Boca Raton, Poly Woggles Boondoggles, Greyball the Sprayball, Bentley the Monsta, Little Gurl, Baby Bagel Butt), 5 guinea hens (I'm thinking they are mobsters related to the mafia), 1 adorable but extremely skittish formerly abused doggie & a conure who fell in our yard! It's farm fair time in NJ! See: visitnj.org/art...

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 ~tracy, proud Navy Seal wife & mom to 17 chickens, 6 killer cats (Loki Boki Boca Raton, Poly Woggles Boondoggles, Greyball the Sprayball, Bentley the Monsta, Little Gurl, Baby Bagel Butt), 5 guinea hens (I'm thinking they are mobsters related to the mafia), 1 adorable but extremely skittish formerly abused doggie & a conure who fell in our yard! It's farm fair time in NJ! See: visitnj.org/art...

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