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Time for a Flight Pen "4/8 Updated"

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Needed a pen for the birds, I really liked the design from www.QuailRanch-OK.com. But I was really worried about the wind so I emailed Lynn Webster at QuailRanch-OK "Nice Lady" and she said 65 to 70 mph winds were OK. That's about what we get rolling off the Horse Heaven Hills.
So I thought it was time to get the beer cold and give it a whirl. My wife thinks this is April Fools, just wait till she gets home. celebrate

Day 1:
First off where should I put this. So I gave that task to Cody and Dakota. And they found a good spot, the garage and fence will block some wind.

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Decided to do a 20ft. flight pen so we dropped the auger on the tractor and put a few holes in the ground. At one point the Auger locked up and I could not get it pulled up from the ground. Finally after some rocking it came out. It got caught on the Water and Electric line coming from the garage, that would have ruined my day. My son gave me the business about call before you dig. LOL....Unfortunately they only do their mains, road to meter.

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Sitting on a tractor is tough work so I grabbed a chair and cracked a cold one. The boys went to work dropping in the 4" PVC and running the strings to get our bearings straight. We put up the first arch to see how high this would be with a stick of 20ft 1-1/4" PVC as the arch. After cementing the 1-3/8" top rail in the 4" PVC, that 1-1/4" pvc slid right on for the arches. The 1/2" wire mesh floor will end up about 2 1/2ft off the ground. I guess time for another cold one.

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The Cement work is moving right along. The pipes are right up to the strings. This is so easy a Cave Man could do it.

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At this point everyone is either looking confused or ready for another homebrew. So lets call it a day, let the concrete set and get back at it tomorrow.

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Day 2: The wind was brutal today after the rain so I did not get much done.

Started work on the floor by adding cedar around the perimeter. We have a sprayer that we use to seal our decks so I will spray all the cedar and get it sealed after it is all in.

Katharinad suggested the PVC will become brittle in time due to the sun. The arches will be under a rain sheild or shade cloth and are Schedule 40 which will not have sun on them. Don't use Schedule 125 to save money that will go a little quicker. FYI I have had Schedule 40 laying out back since 2003 in this god forsaken northern desert sun and it is fine. As far as the 4" if it rots away I'll be left with 4-1/2ft concrete tubes. Notice the top rail used for fencing in the bottom left corner which the PVC drops over. Tip - put a little oil or WD-40 on the top rail to make the PVC slide on easier. We fought the first one.

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In the center row I could not find 20ft lumber so we layed down a 12ft section and bolted it to a 8 footer with a Strong tie. Off center is not a problem since the walk will actually be off center anyways. It all lays on the center which is what we need. Also put in the first cross brace at 4ft.

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On the cross beams I'm putting in 4" galvanized nails and also screwing on Strong Tie 90 degree brackets for extra strength. Not really I just had them laying around smile.

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Here is a closer look at securing the floor and arches. The 4" was put in 4ft apart and filled with concrete, also the rest of the 80# bag of concrete was put in the hole for extra support. The top rail pipe was put in the 4' with a pin in it so it would not come out. The top rail was offset so the perimeter floor and cross braces layed on the concrete pipe. The arch PVC was dropped over the top rail and then we drilled and bolted the frame to the pipes. We tried to pull it out of the ground. That baby ain't goin nowhere. Wish I had done more today but the weather did not cooperate. But as soon as I cleaned up and got the camera the sun came out go figure.

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Day 3: The frame is finished but the winds are back at it today gusts to 60. Feel like i'm in Kansas with Toto.

The front section is our loadout area, it is easier to get through a door from a landing area than trying to do it with boxes or supplies going up steps. We poured a 36"X30" cement pad that we will put our steps on. 4x4's were used for a door frame that will be also be made from PVC, hardware cloth and a small piece of plywood to brace it. 16ft 2x6's are used for a walkway, their just there for show right now until the wire floor goes down. We will space them apart to kinda match your walking width.

Next we start putting in the wire floor and bring it two feet up the sides. I want it all done by this weekend but the weather service has these high wind warnings and we have had to just batten down the hatches. I'm tired of chasing things around the yard. Getting to old for this....... old

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This is a close up to show how the frame rests across the concrete post and the toprail / pvc is off center and bolted to the frame.

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See you soon


Edited by optic1 - 4/8/10 at 3:59pm
After living in every major city, I'm loving the country now and enjoy my lazy cat Hannah, 4 Golden Retrievers - Cheyenne, Dakota, Montana, and Cody. How I still entertain my wife of 21 years is beyond me.

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After living in every major city, I'm loving the country now and enjoy my lazy cat Hannah, 4 Golden Retrievers - Cheyenne, Dakota, Montana, and Cody. How I still entertain my wife of 21 years is beyond me.

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post #2 of 18

looks great

post #3 of 18

Wow that is coming along.

Cant wait to see how far you get tommarrow..

caf

post #4 of 18

I built my flight pen on their design too. except I used treated 4 x 4's instead of the pvc pipes and concrete.
My pen is 12 x 32 and 6' in the middle,about 2' off the ground. This is a great design. I have coturnix quail inn mine for meat to restaurants and such, so no shade netting to hide humans from them.
I am still working on the watering system but have had good luck with a 7 gallon poultry waterer.Still need to add the large sand box (kiddy pool) .

You will find that 1 pen is never enough, I am planing on another pen in the next year or so.
Good luck.
Tim.

Forgot to add the picture link lol

http://therolans.shutterfly.com/quail


Edited by kingbee - 4/2/10 at 2:24pm
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Originally Posted by kingbee 

I built my flight pen on their design too. except I used treated 4 x 4's instead of the pvc pipes and concrete.
My pen is 12 x 32 and 6' in the middle,about 2' off the ground. This is a great design. I have coturnix quail inn mine for meat to restaurants and such, so no shade netting to hide humans from them.
I am still working on the watering system but have had good luck with a 7 gallon poultry waterer.Still need to add the large sand box (kiddy pool) .

You will find that 1 pen is never enough, I am planing on another pen in the next year or so.
Good luck.
Tim.

Forgot to add the picture link lol

http://therolans.shutterfly.com/quail


I was going to use wood because of the wind but I wanted to see if this would stay up. Plus wood costs more than a stick of pipe. Right now we have wind gusts at 50 MPH today so work is slow on the floor. Dust is blowin in from the hills. I'll post pictures tonight.

For your sand box, when I was at home depot they had the small mortar troughs on the concrete aisle for 4 bucks so I bought two. There alot bigger than litter boxes. For shade netting our Harbor Freight store had these heavy duty black mesh tarps cheap so I'm gonna try it. Doing birds is like owning a boat. If I buy from a marina they want 50 bucks. If I look on line under another use it costs ten.

I'm gonna try their ranch water system too. I have two high capacity fish pumps from a salt water tank so I'll use one and drop the two 33 gallon garbage pails from Home Depot in the ground. "Wait till my son finds out he has to dig out the rest of the hole after I auger it". LOL.......I'm just wondering if rounding off the corners with the hardware cloth is really necessary. Do they crowd that much and really crush each other?

I looked at your pics. Looking good.thumbsup


Edited by optic1 - 4/2/10 at 4:27pm
After living in every major city, I'm loving the country now and enjoy my lazy cat Hannah, 4 Golden Retrievers - Cheyenne, Dakota, Montana, and Cody. How I still entertain my wife of 21 years is beyond me.

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After living in every major city, I'm loving the country now and enjoy my lazy cat Hannah, 4 Golden Retrievers - Cheyenne, Dakota, Montana, and Cody. How I still entertain my wife of 21 years is beyond me.

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post #6 of 18

Next time listen to you kids. lol.............. but good job so far. i'm thinking of building one for my quails. i am first time raising quails. so i need all the help i can get. hubby is asking how many quails are you going to put in the flight pen

post #7 of 18

The PVC pipes will become brittle in time due to sunlight exposure.  Perhaps a tubing bender is better.  Here is a site that sells them and all you do is go to the hardware store and buy fence railings and bend.
http://www.lostcreek.net/
Katharina

post #8 of 18
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Originally Posted by kingbee 

I built my flight pen on their design too. except I used treated 4 x 4's instead of the pvc pipes and concrete.
My pen is 12 x 32 and 6' in the middle,about 2' off the ground. This is a great design. I have coturnix quail inn mine for meat to restaurants and such, so no shade netting to hide humans from them.
I am still working on the watering system but have had good luck with a 7 gallon poultry waterer.Still need to add the large sand box (kiddy pool) .

You will find that 1 pen is never enough, I am planing on another pen in the next year or so.
Good luck.
Tim.

Forgot to add the picture link lol

http://therolans.shutterfly.com/quail


hi kingbee, is there anyway you can straight out you pictures. lol.... it's kinda hard to look at the pictures sideways. lol............lau  laulaulaulaulaulaulaulaulaulau:lau:lau

post #9 of 18

Awesome job!!! Keep us posted. thumbsup

post #10 of 18

looks really good. I thought about this design ,son works at plumbing supply co.,but the bears,racoons,and stray cougar are a big hurdle. Still thinking about though.

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