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1/2" Inch Mesh...? Chicken Wire....? 1"x2" Welded Wire...?

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Been looking at hundreds of 'A frame' and "portable" coop pics for weeks and started this.  I am framed up 90% and need to put fence on bottom and lower sides then wood on top side.  I have heard horror stories of chicken wire breaking raccoons and possums that eat chickens.  Then I see lots of pics with good ole chicken wire used.  Whats the deal?  Any thoughts?   cool

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post #2 of 16

Chicken wire is great for keeping chickens in but it keeps nothing out.  Weasels go thru the openings, coons and coyotes claw through it.  I'd use the mesh if I were you.


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When having problems with chickens stop and think, what would Harlan do?
I've dealt with many thorns in my life and the flower is always worth the effort.

6 Nest rollout nest box plans  http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/287684/new-rollout-nest-design-picture-heavy-edited-1-21

Smoker plans http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/721017/opas-recirculating-smoker

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post #3 of 16

I'd use mesh. Many people that have chicken wire either haven't suffered a predator yet or their coops are in a fully fenced secure yard guared by dogs or something. There was a picture on here this week that had a huge hole busted through their chicken wire. Definitely use hardware mesh/cloth/

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There are several factors here. Chicken wire is a woven wire, meaning that the vertical and horizontal strands are simply twisted at intersection points, not welded. This is a weaker connection than a weld. Secondly, chicken wire is normally a high gauge wire, typically 20 gauge or higher. That measures how thick the wire is. The higher the gauge, the thinner the wire. 20 gauge wire isn't very strong, not strong enough to keep a dog or raccoon from ripping it apart. That's why so many people here advise that chicken wire is good for keeping chickens in, but not good for keeping predators out. 

Some people use chicken wire on their runs because their yard is fenced and they don't need to worry about dogs, and they believe the risk of a raccoon coming around during the day is low. They lock their chickens into a secure coop every single night.  Others take the risk of chicken wire and are just lucky. Finally, others use chicken wire and end up  cleaning  after a chicken massacre.

If you decide to use welded wire instead, there is also the issue of wire spacing to consider (that's the space formed by the vertical and horizontal wires). If the wire spacing is greater than 1/2"  by 1/2" inch, a predator like a raccoon can reach through the wire, grab parts of a bird, and dismember it by pulling it through the wire. Horrible.

I use 19 gauge, vinyl coated welded wire with 1/2" by 1/2" wire spacing  (sometimes called hardware cloth) for all of my housing.

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I also use the 1/2" x 1/2" hardware cloth. It's better to be safe than sorry.

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post #6 of 16

Most def...use hardware cloth.  We have coons...BIG coons and they nearly tore thru a heavy duty commercial grade garbage can...if you don't have a secure yard, use the cloth. and even a fence won't keep coons out, one scaled our 6 foot chain link.  duc

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I don't use chicken wire on anything.  I have a lot of cages that are made with 1/2 x 1/2 and some that the sides are 1/2 x 1 welded wire.  I like both of these sizes.  I also use 1 x 2 welded wire for our larger runs.  I never use a larger spacing that that (for multiple reasons).

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I don't want to hijack the discussion, but can someone explain to me the difference between poultry netting and chicken wire.  I saw the poultry netting at HD today and it looked to me like chicken wire, but with slightly smaller openings.  Or are they altogether different things?

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Chicken Math in action -- sell three, buy seven -- build another coop - harvest two, order 12, and then some more and some more.

32 chickens and 23 quail own me.  Add about 30 chicks but loose 14 to predators. I need me some more chicks, me thinks.

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Chicken wire and poultry netting are two different names for the same product.

When having problems with chickens stop and think, what would Harlan do?
I've dealt with many thorns in my life and the flower is always worth the effort.

6 Nest rollout nest box plans  http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/287684/new-rollout-nest-design-picture-heavy-edited-1-21

Smoker plans http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/721017/opas-recirculating-smoker

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When having problems with chickens stop and think, what would Harlan do?
I've dealt with many thorns in my life and the flower is always worth the effort.

6 Nest rollout nest box plans  http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/287684/new-rollout-nest-design-picture-heavy-edited-1-21

Smoker plans http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/721017/opas-recirculating-smoker

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post #10 of 16

Sometimes bird netting isn't even wire, but nylon or plastic:

http://www.nixalite.com/birdnetting.aspx

Some people use a product like this over the top of their run. It will keep hawks out, but that's about it.

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