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post #1641 of 1952

If you put a black rooster over your lavender hens, all of the offspring should be splits, visually black but carrying one copy of the lavender gene.  Then you can breed the offspring to each other and you should statistically get 25 % lavender from this crossing. The other 75 % would be splits and pure black with no copies of lavender. You can't tell the splits and blacks apart without test breeding which is time consuming and requires more space. Or you could just raise them and sell them as layers/roosters for a backyard flock (most likely not a breeding stock since you don't know who is carrying what).  

 

Alternatively, you could breed the same splits to a lavender bird and get 50 % (again statistically) lavender, BUT I would not do this unless you could get your hands on a lavender that is at least as nice as your nicest splits.  You wouldn't want to use your original lavenders because you would probably be digressing. In this case, the 50 % that are visually black would all be splits. 

 

I hope this helps ... how are your pullets doing? smile.png

 

Edited to make the change highlighted by WA4-Hpoultrymom  Ha! Thanks for catching my mistake! You are right of course ... I should have proofread! :)


Edited by cukooformarans - 3/19/12 at 5:33pm
post #1642 of 1952
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Originally Posted by cukooformarans View Post

If you put a black rooster over your lavender hens, all of the offspring should be splits, visually lavender but carrying one copy of the lavender gene.  Then you can breed the offspring to each other and you should statistically get 25 % lavender from this crossing. The other 75 % would be splits and pure black with no copies of lavender. You can't tell the splits and blacks apart without test breeding which is time consuming and requires more space. Or you could just raise them and sell them as layers/roosters for a backyard flock (most likely not a breeding stock since you don't know who is carrying what).  

 

Alternatively, you could breed the same splits to a lavender bird and get 50 % (again statistically) lavender, BUT I would not do this unless you could get your hands on a lavender that is at least as nice as your nicest splits.  You wouldn't want to use your original lavenders because you would probably be digressing. In this case, the 50 % that are visually black would all be splits. 

 

I hope this helps ... how are your pullets doing? smile.png



I think you meant visually black?

 

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Breeding BLRW, Blue/Black & Self Blue Bantam Cochins, Bantam Salmon Faverolle's, Seramas & Splash Marans.

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post #1643 of 1952
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Originally Posted by cukooformarans View Post

If you put a black rooster over your lavender hens, all of the offspring should be splits, visually black but carrying one copy of the lavender gene.  Then you can breed the offspring to each other and you should statistically get 25 % lavender from this crossing. The other 75 % would be splits and pure black with no copies of lavender. You can't tell the splits and blacks apart without test breeding which is time consuming and requires more space. Or you could just raise them and sell them as layers/roosters for a backyard flock (most likely not a breeding stock since you don't know who is carrying what).  

 

Alternatively, you could breed the same splits to a lavender bird and get 50 % (again statistically) lavender, BUT I would not do this unless you could get your hands on a lavender that is at least as nice as your nicest splits.  You wouldn't want to use your original lavenders because you would probably be digressing. In this case, the 50 % that are visually black would all be splits. 

 

I hope this helps ... how are your pullets doing? smile.png

 

Edited to make the change highlighted by WA4-Hpoultrymom  Ha! Thanks for catching my mistake! You are right of course ... I should have proofread! :)



Yes, this is my point. If you don't have a nice lavender rooster with good orpington type you will have years of breeding to be able to help  with type. I also know of no one with a good lavender male with good type. Why after five years is there no lavenders out there that look like a orpington should? I guess i'm just not prepared to spend years on this project and will just sell my blacks and lavenders. Thanks for your post.

 

post #1644 of 1952

Hey all! I hatched a batch of Lavenders and some splits over the weekend and ended up with some oddballs. One is definitely a mottled Lavender. The other I have no clue if it is a black with a lot of white trim or if it could be mottled too. Any ideas?

 

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Blue Laced Red Wyandottes, part-English Lavender/Black/Mottled Orpingtons, Blue Wheaten/Wheaten Ameraucanas, Appenzeller Spitzhaubens, Guineas.

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Me(Brandi), 1 very tolerant boyfriend, 1 chestnut Thoroughbred mare, 2 red Staffordshire Bull Terriers, 7 barn cats.
Blue Laced Red Wyandottes, part-English Lavender/Black/Mottled Orpingtons, Blue Wheaten/Wheaten Ameraucanas, Appenzeller Spitzhaubens, Guineas.

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post #1645 of 1952

Hello- i live in birmingham,AL and am trying to find some lavender orp female chicks- can you help?  -Blessings, stephanie


Edited by twoscrambled - 4/3/12 at 3:01pm
post #1646 of 1952
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Hello- i live in birmingham,AL and am trying to find some lavender orp female chicks- can you help?  -Blessings, stephanie



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post #1647 of 1952


I'm no expert, especially on the mottling, but it looks to me like one lavender, one black, one mottled lavender and one mottled black.  Either way, they are ADORABLE!!!! :)

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Hey all! I hatched a batch of Lavenders and some splits over the weekend and ended up with some oddballs. One is definitely a mottled Lavender. The other I have no clue if it is a black with a lot of white trim or if it could be mottled too. Any ideas?

 

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post #1648 of 1952

Thank you! I think they are just adorable too! Hopefully others will chime in with their opinions. I have some more due this weekend and in a couple weeks, so hopefully I will have more like that little black one!

Me(Brandi), 1 very tolerant boyfriend, 1 chestnut Thoroughbred mare, 2 red Staffordshire Bull Terriers, 7 barn cats.
Blue Laced Red Wyandottes, part-English Lavender/Black/Mottled Orpingtons, Blue Wheaten/Wheaten Ameraucanas, Appenzeller Spitzhaubens, Guineas.

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Me(Brandi), 1 very tolerant boyfriend, 1 chestnut Thoroughbred mare, 2 red Staffordshire Bull Terriers, 7 barn cats.
Blue Laced Red Wyandottes, part-English Lavender/Black/Mottled Orpingtons, Blue Wheaten/Wheaten Ameraucanas, Appenzeller Spitzhaubens, Guineas.

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post #1649 of 1952
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Originally Posted by cukooformarans View Post


I'm no expert, especially on the mottling, but it looks to me like one lavender, one black, one mottled lavender and one mottled black.  Either way, they are ADORABLE!!!! :)



 



X2 I agree with cukooformarans. They are adorable love.gif

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Raising 2 Daughters, Daisy(Black Lab Puppy) 5 Tamworth Pigs, Lavender Orps, and Split Black Orps all with the patience of my wonderful Husband!
-Julie

 

MAHONRI'S 3RD ANNUAL, BYC EASTER HATCH-A-LONG!!!!

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post #1650 of 1952

My first Lav project chick just hatched today!!!!  Still in the bator as a mater of fact.  11 out of 12 made it to lock down!!  All 12 made the shipping process!  Happy Easter!  The chick holiday!

40 feedstore mixed flock layers, including 7 of last fall's unauthorized chicks, 11 SQ LF Black Orps, herd of 11 Maine-Anjou, Shorthorn, and Saler cattle, four cats, and one lazy, loud red healer! 

Hatching/adding to my LF Black Orps, and some blues/splashes too. Working on self-blue project Orps & Speckled Sussex. Thinking about trying Diamond Jubilee Orps. Show season complete, points earned!!!

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40 feedstore mixed flock layers, including 7 of last fall's unauthorized chicks, 11 SQ LF Black Orps, herd of 11 Maine-Anjou, Shorthorn, and Saler cattle, four cats, and one lazy, loud red healer! 

Hatching/adding to my LF Black Orps, and some blues/splashes too. Working on self-blue project Orps & Speckled Sussex. Thinking about trying Diamond Jubilee Orps. Show season complete, points earned!!!

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