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How To Order Straight Run Frizzle Bantams...Need Advice, Please. :o)

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Thread Starter 

Hello, I am about to place a bantam chick order for cochin frizzle bantams and few other types of bantams.  How many do I order of each type to beat the odds of getting all roosters?  Should I order 5 of each type, say black, red, white, etc...in order to beat the odds of receiving all roosters?  Does this make any sense? lol...

I've never ordered straight run before and don't know whether to order 2 of each, 3 of each or ???? of each - help!  I'm not the luckiest person and my odds of receiving pretty much all roosters scares me so I need someone's advice, please.

Thank you for your time!smile


Edited by TJ - 6/3/10 at 6:10am
post #2 of 6

It is purely a matter of odds.  There is no guarantee.  I got 7 pullets out of an order of 6 straight run Buff Orps. The packing peanut was even a pullet.  It could have just as easily been all roosters.  When I was ordering, I went with 6 straight run to give pretty good odds of getting at least two pullets.

This might help you.  To maybe help interpret this, if you order 3 chicks, 7 out of 8 times you will get at least one pullet and half the time you will get two or three pullets.  If you order 4, the odds are that 15 out of 16 times you will get at least one pullet and 11 out of 16 times, you will get at least 2 pullets. 

1 chick

1 male 0 female  -   1 in 2 or   50%
0 male 1 female  -   1 in 2 or   50%

2 chicks

2 male 0 female  -   1 in 4 or   25%
1 male 1 female  -   2 in 4 or   50%
0 male 2 female  -   1 in 4 or   25%


3 chicks

3 male 0 female  -   1 in 8 or   12.5%
2 male 1 female  -   3 in 8 or   37.5%
1 male 2 female  -   3 in 8 or   37.5%
0 male 3 female  -   1 in 8 or   12.5%

4 chicks

4 male 0 female  -   1 in 16 or    6.3%
3 male 1 female  -   4 in 16 or  25.0%
2 male 2 female  -   6 in 16 or  37.5%
1 male 3 female  -   4 in 16 or  25.0%
0 male 4 female  -   1 in 16 or    6.3%


5 chicks

5 male 0 female  -    1 in 32 or   3.1%
4 male 1 female  -    5 in 32 or 15.6%
3 male 2 female  -  10 in 32 or 31.3%
2 male 3 female  -  10 in 32 or 31.3%
1 male 4 female  -    5 in 32 or 15.6%
0 male 5 female  -    1 in 32 or   3.1%


6 chicks

6 male 0 female  -     1 in 64 or    1.6%
5 male 1 female  -     6 in 64 or    9.4%
4 male 2 female  -   15 in 64 or  23.4%
3 male 3 female  -   20 in 64 or  31.3%
2 male 4 female  -   15 in 64 or  23.4%
1 male 5 female  -     6 in 64 or   9.4%
0 male 6 female  -     1 in 64 or   1.6%

7 chicks

7 male 0 female  -     1 in 128 or     0.8%
6 male 1 female  -     7 in 128 or     5.5%
5 male 2 female  -    21 in 128 or  16.4%
4 male 3 female  -    35 in 128 or   27.3%
3 male 4 female  -    35 in 128 or   27.3%
2 male 5 female  -    21 in 128 or   16.4%
1 male 6 female  -      7 in 128 or     5.5%
0 male 7 female  -      1 in 128 or     0.8%

8 chicks

8 male 0 female  -      1 in 256 or    0.4%
7 male 1 female  -      8 in 256 or    3.1%
6 male 2 female  -    28 in 256 or  10.9%
5 male 3 female  -    56 in 256 or  21.9%
4 male 4 female  -    70 in 256 or  27.3%
3 male 5 female  -    56 in 256 or  21.9%
2 male 6 female  -    28 in 256 or  10.9%
1 male 7 female  -      8 in 256 or    3.1%
0 male 8 female  -      1 in 256 or    0.4%

Freedom is not the right to do what we want, but what we ought....Abraham Lincoln (Freedom carries responsibility)

The spirit of liberty is the spirit which is not too sure that it is right.....Judge Learned Hand  (The more sure your are that your way is the only right way, the more likely you are wrong.)

 

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Freedom is not the right to do what we want, but what we ought....Abraham Lincoln (Freedom carries responsibility)

The spirit of liberty is the spirit which is not too sure that it is right.....Judge Learned Hand  (The more sure your are that your way is the only right way, the more likely you are wrong.)

 

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post #3 of 6
Thread Starter 

My goodness 'Ridgerunner' - you have done your homework!  Thank you so much for this information!  I know that one takes a gamble when ordering straight run and I can't tell you how many times I was about to place my order only to think to myself, "maybe I oughta add on just one more of these"..."or maybe I should add on a couple of more", I was driving myself crazy with something that should be so simple.  That's when I decided to come here and ask - I'm so glad I did!

Thank you again - this is very helpful and very much appreciated!smile

Have a wonderful day!

~tj

post #4 of 6

I am a newbie & found this info very helpful since I had the same question! I love East Tennessee! Telford, Jonesborough, Limestone......But we're in Florida for the time being.

post #5 of 6
Thread Starter 

Hello again, I know I'm being a pain in the backside with these questions but...okay, if you were me, and you were about to place an order for frizzle bantam cochins in black and in white, how many would you order (within reason) of each to be almost sure that you would end up with a rooster and a couple of hens of each color with the frizzle gene?

Thank you so much!

...and I promise this will be the last of the questions regarding this matter...lol:)

~tj

post #6 of 6

The color doesn't matter because you will probably get both roosters and hens no matter how many of each color. But you should order 3 of each. Hopefully there will be 3 roosters and 6 hens. Which hopefully will be 1 rooster and 2 hens of each breed.

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