Originally Posted by cavemanrich
I never encountered worms. (18 years) and consider myself GRATEFUL My question is .......... During the 3 weeks you don't eat those eggs. (understandable) can you cook them up and feed them back to your chickens.???
As said by others, feeding your birds eggs from medicated birds will extend the withdrawal time, if for example the withdrawal is 10 days you would have to wait until 10 days after the last day the chickens at the medicated eggs.
Originally Posted by MeepBeep
I you are essentially dosing them again with each new egg and resetting the withdrawal period, albeit the dosage in the egg is minute it's still reintroducing the medication to the chicken and some of the reintroduced medication will find it's way into the next egg in a perpetual diminishing cycle...
IMO best to just dispose of the eggs during the withdrawal period just to be safe...
Originally Posted by Justso
It sounds like you're taking great care of your chickens. I guess the only thing that I would point out is that if your chicken has worms you may not notice unless their immune system is compromised, then it can become very serious and too late to treat. I don't believe these foods will cure worms, but it is healthy for them to eat so no harm!
After my positive experience with deworming I have decided to have a regular worming schedule with my chickens. I will worm again in December with Valbazen.
Valbazen is a good all-around dewormer that will get most internal parasites including tapeworms. For best effect do two dewormings 10 days apart, then do a 10 day withdrawal.
Since most parasites are passed from the digestive tract in the microscopic egg stage, you may never see a worm unless you have a heavily parasitized bird. Fecal exams at a vet clinic can really help get a handle on if you have parasites or not.
Originally Posted by rikd
from what i read garlic pumpkin seeds and squash seeds will change the PH balance in the stomachs and that makes it an unlikable environment for worms and that the garlic gets in there blood and skin (same with humans i knw is true) and wards of fleas, ticks, lice, mites and mosquitoes... got this info from multiple sources one of which was on this web page just hoping if anyone knows 100% if it works or does... ty all 😀
While these may reduce how many worms infest your birds, they will not completely prevent infestation and will not get rid of a worm burden. The evidence for garlic in terms of external parasites is shaky - while there is anecdotal evidence, controlled studies have shown little effect. Works for vampires though
Originally Posted by Faraday40
For 3 years, I did many of those things (garlic 1x every month, raw ACV in water 1x per week, many cucumbers & zucc in summer, & whole pumpkins every fall) but mine got worms. I never noticed any issues until my favorite hen, Cuddles, got sick. Not sure what the illness was but because she was inside the house, I noticed 1 tiny worm in her watery (just not right) poop. I treated all chickens for worms. Cuddles was very ill & stopped eating & drinking. It was so severe, I had to tube feed her for a few days. Although she never had any blood in stools, I treated her for Cocci as well. (We had a very wet spring & summer)
I was never able to figure out what she had (other than worms), but I am very grateful she made it through. After going through all this, I think those natural methods may keep worms from overproducing, but in my opinion, they will not kill the worms. I still think these things are still very beneficial to the digestive tract even if they don't kill all the worms. I also give probiotics when I think they may need a boost.
Anyway, that's my opinion. I'm not a vet. Perhaps I didn't give pumpkin year round or should have always had ACV in the water. Not sure. In the end, I just want healthy hens, so I plan to use de-wormers in the future. Note: The worst part of de-worming was not eating their eggs for 3 weeks. Now they're molting so production is way down. UGH!!!!
This is very well-said, and correct as well.
The best time to deworm is in the fall when many birds are molting and egg production is down naturally due to decreasing day length. In addition waiting until there has been some subfreezing temps reduces the number of parasites in the outdoor runs. If you use light to stimulate egg production, a good schedule would be to deworm after cold weather sets in, during decreased egg production, then after the withdrawal period put your birds under lights. Then your birds will be healthy and parasite-free going into the harsher winter months.