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Hi All,

It seems our male call duck has Phallus Prostration (male prolapse)...  I've been hearing that I may have to snip off the tissue (if it is infected or dead)...just seeking any advice to those that may have dealt with this before...

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post #2 of 18

Ouch.. poor little guy!
Can you soak in it cold water to see if it will shrink?
Or maybe Prep. H cream... it shrinks tissue...
Hopefully some of the duck gurus will chime in and help you out!! fl

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post #3 of 18

Here is the advice from Storeys Guide

immediately isolate him to keep others from nipping at his penis
wash the penis with clean warm water and apply some kind of (I am adding MILD) disinfectant
treat with a medicated ointment.
apply ointment daily until he is fully recovered (could take several weeks or more)

Even if the end dries up and falls off, he could still be okay

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post #4 of 18

Yikes! Poor guy. No experience, just that Storey's Guide is usually right. Fingers crossed for a quick recovery!

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post #5 of 18

Sounds like a job for a vet to me.  If that is an option financially, I would think a vet would probably give the bird something to knock it out, and then surgically or manually repair the problem, or if worse came to worse amputate, whatever is best for the bird.

Reminds me of the warnings the announcer voices over during Cialis and Viagra commercials.  Yikes!

post #6 of 18

I am an avian specialist and I see these ocassionally. Sorry I missed this post until 18 months later, but in case someone else comes across this in the future, I recommend the following:

  1. Separate the drake from females. Typically this is a problem affecting young, exuberant drakes. If you take away the temptation then their phallus will stay put and get the rest it sorely needs.
  2. If the tissue is too swollen to replace or is black, green, dead then see an avian vet first.
  3. If not, gently cleanse the phallus and, if possible without too much misery, lube it up with KY or similar water-soluble jelly and tuck it back inside the cloaca. Sometimes, if the duck is cooperative, you can try applying a hypertonic sugar solution to help shrink the swollen tissue. Most ducks are not this patient.
  4. If it pops right back out and there is danger of it getting stepped on or beat up, go see an avian vet.

 

The most important steps the vet can provide that you can't are pain relief, anti-inflammatory drugs, and, in the case of a phallus that keeps popping back out, they can apply a couple of temporary sutures across the vent to hold the phallus in place while it heals. The procedure can be performed in most ducks while awake and using just a local anesthetic-- so not too expensive. Usually this is all that's needed and the sutures can come out in 10-14 days (often they pop out on their own). In very few cases, where the phallus has devitalized or become injured, or fails to heal after the initial vent sutures, then amputation is necessary. Some birds will have long-term complications from this, depending upon how the amputation is performed.

Scott Ford, DVM, DABVP-Avian

Avian Specialty Veterinary Services

www.avian-vet.com

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post #7 of 18

 

I know it's not a laughing matter, but...


 

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Can you soak in it cold water to see if it will shrink?
 


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post #8 of 18

valuable information.  thank you.
 

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Originally Posted by akeaglevet View Post

I am an avian specialist and I see these ocassionally. Sorry I missed this post until 18 months later, but in case someone else comes across this in the future, I recommend the following:

  1. Separate the drake from females. Typically this is a problem affecting young, exuberant drakes. If you take away the temptation then their phallus will stay put and get the rest it sorely needs.
  2. If the tissue is too swollen to replace or is black, green, dead then see an avian vet first.
  3. If not, gently cleanse the phallus and, if possible without too much misery, lube it up with KY or similar water-soluble jelly and tuck it back inside the cloaca. Sometimes, if the duck is cooperative, you can try applying a hypertonic sugar solution to help shrink the swollen tissue. Most ducks are not this patient.
  4. If it pops right back out and there is danger of it getting stepped on or beat up, go see an avian vet.

 

The most important steps the vet can provide that you can't are pain relief, anti-inflammatory drugs, and, in the case of a phallus that keeps popping back out, they can apply a couple of temporary sutures across the vent to hold the phallus in place while it heals. The procedure can be performed in most ducks while awake and using just a local anesthetic-- so not too expensive. Usually this is all that's needed and the sutures can come out in 10-14 days (often they pop out on their own). In very few cases, where the phallus has devitalized or become injured, or fails to heal after the initial vent sutures, then amputation is necessary. Some birds will have long-term complications from this, depending upon how the amputation is performed.



 

WI'd rather have a life 'oh wells' than a life of 'what ifs.' " - Anon.

 

Welsh Harlequins and Cayugas; Easter Eggers, Wellsummers, Barred Rocks, Buff Orpingtons

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Originally Posted by akeaglevet View Post

I am an avian specialist and I see these ocassionally. Sorry I missed this post until 18 months later, but in case someone else comes across this in the future, I recommend the following:

  1. Separate the drake from females. Typically this is a problem affecting young, exuberant drakes. If you take away the temptation then their phallus will stay put and get the rest it sorely needs.
  2. If the tissue is too swollen to replace or is black, green, dead then see an avian vet first.
  3. If not, gently cleanse the phallus and, if possible without too much misery, lube it up with KY or similar water-soluble jelly and tuck it back inside the cloaca. Sometimes, if the duck is cooperative, you can try applying a hypertonic sugar solution to help shrink the swollen tissue. Most ducks are not this patient.
  4. If it pops right back out and there is danger of it getting stepped on or beat up, go see an avian vet.

 

The most important steps the vet can provide that you can't are pain relief, anti-inflammatory drugs, and, in the case of a phallus that keeps popping back out, they can apply a couple of temporary sutures across the vent to hold the phallus in place while it heals. The procedure can be performed in most ducks while awake and using just a local anesthetic-- so not too expensive. Usually this is all that's needed and the sutures can come out in 10-14 days (often they pop out on their own). In very few cases, where the phallus has devitalized or become injured, or fails to heal after the initial vent sutures, then amputation is necessary. Some birds will have long-term complications from this, depending upon how the amputation is performed.


Thank you so much for expert advise. It is greatly appreciated.
 

 

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post #10 of 18

This is a nugget of gold, thanks!

 

Nine beautiful Runners, four beautiful Buffs, thousands of beautiful memories and counting.

 

Looking for ducks?  Please consider adopting rescued ducks.  There are many places and people who do rescues, but we are not allowed to post the links due to BYC regs.  So fire up your web browsers and find some sweet, grateful duckies. 

 

 

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Nine beautiful Runners, four beautiful Buffs, thousands of beautiful memories and counting.

 

Looking for ducks?  Please consider adopting rescued ducks.  There are many places and people who do rescues, but we are not allowed to post the links due to BYC regs.  So fire up your web browsers and find some sweet, grateful duckies. 

 

 

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