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Here is another link. http://www.helpwithcooking.com/egg-guide/fresh-egg-test.html

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Originally Posted by JJMR794 

Many Folks Are Having Eggs Go Overdue For Hatch And Wondering If They Are Duds, Late, Or Have Had Some Sort Of Fetal Demise.... The Float Test Is Simple Yet Effect Way Of Checking Egg Viability.

I Normally Give Eggs A Full 24 Hrs Overdue Before Float Testing. It Works On All Bird Eggs- Period! Takes Very Little Equipment Or Time To Do And Is Easy To Perform.


Start With A Bowl Of Sufficient Depth To Allow The Eggs Your Testing To Float Freely Or Sink. Add 100 Degree Water To The Needed Level And Allow It To Settle( Quit Swirling And Calm Down)

Once Settled Take The Egg Or Eggs To Be Tested And Gently Lower Them Into The Water With As Little Disturbance As Possible. You May Need To Wait A Few Minutes For The Water To Settle Again After Adding Egg/ Eggs. Then Just Watch....

Eggs Are Judged By Observation With Results As Follows:

1. Sinker= Dud, Never Developed

2. High Floater (like A Fishing Bobber Without Weights) Say 45% Or More Of The Egg Above The Water Line= Dud, No Development Or Fetal Demise, Likely Rupture Of Internal Membranes Causing The Egg To Dehydrate.

3. Low Floater= Viable Egg, Development Full Term

4. Low Floater Rockin And Rollin! This Is The Live Embryo Moving Inside The Egg= Definate Viable Egg!

Once Test Results Complete Take Viable Eggs And Gently Pat Dry And Replace In Hatcher. Duds Are Best Discarded At This Time.


Which prove that low floater(#3) , could be just older eggs...and not Viable eggs

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Burt The Floaters Those Sites Are Talking About As Being Old Or Bad Eggs Is #2 High Floater

I'm Not Yelling!... Thanx Anyway, But Its The Best Way For Me To Read The Print On The Screen.....LF Cochins, SERAMA, RINGNECK AND RUFFED PHEASANTS, MEL. MUTANT RINGNECKS, BLUE SLATE TURKEYS, MALLARDS, WOOD DUCKS, ROUENS, BUTLER BOB WHITES, COTURNIX. PM ME FOR EGG AVAILABILITIES!
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Burt The Floaters Those Sites Are Talking About As Being Old Or Bad Eggs Is #2 High Floater


no all floater are old eggs , but depend on how old the higher they float the older, they will float at all levels.


read link Robo posted.........thats how you can tell the age..the first sign only the large end floats a little.


Edited by deerman - 2/6/11 at 8:55pm
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here is another....this is nothing new....and yes non fertile eggs. 

So I still say that sticky post is not correct.....because non viable eggs float.  Good thing its said save them, but still this prove the test wrong.


http://food-drink.helium.com/how-to/12234-how-to-test-an-egg-for-freshness

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Originally Posted by JJMR794 

Many Folks Are Having Eggs Go Overdue For Hatch And Wondering If They Are Duds, Late, Or Have Had Some Sort Of Fetal Demise.... The Float Test Is Simple Yet Effect Way Of Checking Egg Viability.

I Normally Give Eggs A Full 24 Hrs Overdue Before Float Testing. It Works On All Bird Eggs- Period! Takes Very Little Equipment Or Time To Do And Is Easy To Perform.


Start With A Bowl Of Sufficient Depth To Allow The Eggs Your Testing To Float Freely Or Sink. Add 100 Degree Water To The Needed Level And Allow It To Settle( Quit Swirling And Calm Down)

Once Settled Take The Egg Or Eggs To Be Tested And Gently Lower Them Into The Water With As Little Disturbance As Possible. You May Need To Wait A Few Minutes For The Water To Settle Again After Adding Egg/ Eggs. Then Just Watch....

Eggs Are Judged By Observation With Results As Follows:

1. Sinker= Dud, Never Developed

2. High Floater (like A Fishing Bobber Without Weights) Say 45% Or More Of The Egg Above The Water Line= Dud, No Development Or Fetal Demise, Likely Rupture Of Internal Membranes Causing The Egg To Dehydrate.

3. Low Floater= Viable Egg, Development Full Term

4. Low Floater Rockin And Rollin! This Is The Live Embryo Moving Inside The Egg= Definate Viable Egg!

Once Test Results Complete Take Viable Eggs And Gently Pat Dry And Replace In Hatcher. Duds Are Best Discarded At This Time.


It Should Be Noted All Eggs Warrant Close Inspection Prior To Float Testing--- Any Pips In The Shell? Do Not Float Test! If The Shell Is Broken, Pipped Or Cracked In Any Way Water May Enter And Drown The Chick Inside

This Test Works Off Of Air Cell Development With Embryo Growth. Infertile Eggs Will Have An Underdeveloped Or Absent Air Cell That Isnt Large Enough To Float The Egg....thus The Sinkers.  Ruptured Membranes Will Allow The Egg To Dehydrate.... Thus The High Floater. Proper Development Of The Embryo Will Cause The Air Cell To Develope To The Point Where Viable Eggs Will Float With Approximately 10-15% Of The Egg Above The Water Line--- These Are The Viable Eggs. Obvious Movement Of The Egg Shows Signs Of Life For The Chick Within. Works On All Bird Eggs From Hummingbirds To Ostriches smile


Great info, thanks! 
And....your ability to type every single word beginning with a capital letter is mind boggling!

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Originally Posted by deerman 

here is another....this is nothing new....and yes non fertile eggs. 

So I still say that sticky post is not correct.....because non viable eggs float.  Good thing its said save them, but still this prove the test wrong.


http://food-drink.helium.com/how-to/12234-how-to-test-an-egg-for-freshness


BURT YOU'RE NOT TAKING 1 THING INTO ACCOUNT HERE. YOU'RE QUOTING ARTICALS PERTAINING TO INFERTILE EGGS AND COMPARING IT TO FERTILE INCUBATED EGGS--- LIKE APPLES TO ORANGES... THE MAIN DIFFERENCE IS THE WEIGHT OF THE EMBRYO DEVELOPING IN THE FERTILE ONES. AND THE CHANGES HAPPENING WITH STRUCTURES AND CHICK DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE EGG.


Edited by JJMR794 - 2/9/11 at 1:39pm
I'm Not Yelling!... Thanx Anyway, But Its The Best Way For Me To Read The Print On The Screen.....LF Cochins, SERAMA, RINGNECK AND RUFFED PHEASANTS, MEL. MUTANT RINGNECKS, BLUE SLATE TURKEYS, MALLARDS, WOOD DUCKS, ROUENS, BUTLER BOB WHITES, COTURNIX. PM ME FOR EGG AVAILABILITIES!
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I'm Not Yelling!... Thanx Anyway, But Its The Best Way For Me To Read The Print On The Screen.....LF Cochins, SERAMA, RINGNECK AND RUFFED PHEASANTS, MEL. MUTANT RINGNECKS, BLUE SLATE TURKEYS, MALLARDS, WOOD DUCKS, ROUENS, BUTLER BOB WHITES, COTURNIX. PM ME FOR EGG AVAILABILITIES!
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Great info, thanks! 
And....your ability to type every single word beginning with a capital letter is mind boggling!


LOL... GOOD AINT I? tongue

I'm Not Yelling!... Thanx Anyway, But Its The Best Way For Me To Read The Print On The Screen.....LF Cochins, SERAMA, RINGNECK AND RUFFED PHEASANTS, MEL. MUTANT RINGNECKS, BLUE SLATE TURKEYS, MALLARDS, WOOD DUCKS, ROUENS, BUTLER BOB WHITES, COTURNIX. PM ME FOR EGG AVAILABILITIES!
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I'm Not Yelling!... Thanx Anyway, But Its The Best Way For Me To Read The Print On The Screen.....LF Cochins, SERAMA, RINGNECK AND RUFFED PHEASANTS, MEL. MUTANT RINGNECKS, BLUE SLATE TURKEYS, MALLARDS, WOOD DUCKS, ROUENS, BUTLER BOB WHITES, COTURNIX. PM ME FOR EGG AVAILABILITIES!
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post #79 of 210
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Originally Posted by JJMR794 
Quote:
Originally Posted by deerman 

here is another....this is nothing new....and yes non fertile eggs. 

So I still say that sticky post is not correct.....because non viable eggs float.  Good thing its said save them, but still this prove the test wrong.


http://food-drink.helium.com/how-to/12234-how-to-test-an-egg-for-freshness


BURT YOU'RE NOT TAKING 1 THING INTO ACCOUNT HERE. YOU'RE QUOTING ARTICALS PERTAINING TO INFERTILE EGGS AND COMPARING IT TO FERTILE INCUBATED EGGS--- LIKE APPLES TO ORANGES... THE MAIN DIFFERENCE IS THE WEIGHT OF THE EMBRYO DEVELOPING IN THE FERTILE ONES. AND THE CHANGES HAPPENING WITH STRUCTURES AND CHICK DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE EGG.


Yes I understand, but if a person set a non-fertile egg that is older it will still float.
All I am saying is just because it floats doesn't mean its viable. Movement yes. Those high floater sure are bad, no matter if fertile or not.

Not saying it hurts to use the test. Just those low floater may not be all viable, but hey you are saving them anyway.

Try setting a quail egg out once a week for 2 months(room temp.) , then floated test them, you will see what i am talking about. Great way to check if someone is selling old eggs too.

The test prove one thing , air cell are larger , on older and incubated eggs.

AGAIN SAYNG THE TEST WILL HELP IN EITHER EGGS, just doesn't prove low floater are viable.(hard to candle those coturnix eggs to see which are fertile anyway , so the floater could be either)  PEACE MAN

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I have 3 remaining eggs that are on day 24.  float testing them, they floated with about 15% above water.  basically it seemed like the air cell space was what was above water.    Candling them they are dark and I see no movement.  also, the eggs showed no movement in the water.  Are they still good?

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