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Okay, so here's my original post, turned into a thread, since so many people seem to have questions about this topic, and so little seem to know much about it. I'll be adding more as I think of more, and revise, and learn more.


D   Wow, I cannot believe most people seem to think the only 'cure' for a 'bad' rooster is the stew pot! hmm
Honestly, I thought the good people of BYC would know all there is to know about this, but it seems to be a little-known/talked about subject.....well, I can happily say, even though there are many things I'm ignorant about, this is something that I actually know a lot about.....I've reached a sort of 'rooster-epiphany" and am here to spread my knowledge with you all. lol
I have the most insanely tame roosters ever....some are GIANT Australorps who are the sweetest boys ever: they'll sit on your lap and come up to you for food. Plus, an Aracauna, barred rock, and Lakenvelders. Several of these boys could probably be very mean, with someone else.

Not to sound big-headed (although I know this is going to anyways), but there's not been ANY rooster I've come across so far that I wasn't able to deal with, NONE that had to go in the stew pot. celebrate
Sure there have been a couple roosters that don't seem to learn, but I can deal with them easily. My brother used to be afraid of them, till I taught him. lol Jeeze, even I used to be way overly wary of roosters until a few years ago! Now, I can't even imagine being afraid of them ever again. smile


Bekissed and GwenDellAnno wrote:

Treat them like a male animal that can inflict harm.  Never assume that , since you have fed him and held him since he was a chick, that he will not harm you.  It is best to treat roosters with a level of respect and keep him knowing you are boss roo or a potential predator.   

Don't let him eat while you are there, don't let him breed while you are there, don't let him get too comfortable around you.  Some roos don't need too much of this type of training, some do.

If you want a pet, get a dog or cat.  If you want a flock master who is every vigilant, treat him like one.


I agree, but I also say that you CAN have a very nice rooster....it's not necessary to treat him just as 'the rooster' and never interact with him. A rooster that does not interact with people can often be a mean rooster. If you just want a protector of your flock, NOT a pet in any way, that's fine, but you should know how to deal with him, without resorting to killing him. My roosters always eat and breed in front of me (although I usually interrupt them when they breed: "NOT here, in front of me!!"lol), but they still totally respect me: I make sure of that, WITHOUT EVER hurting them. My mom used to throw rocks, buckets, and various other items at them, but that just made them mean, and she eventually listened to me, and stopped. Well, sort of. Sometimes a rooster will be 'annoying' to her (meaning getting in the garden or something), and she'll throw a rock at him, but because I spend time with them, none of them are mean even then, although they usually steer clear of her! lol

Some folks can get by with petting and coddling a roo and never have a moment of trouble...but most of the posts on here complaining about aggressive roos start out "he was so sweet when he was little and would let me hold him and pet him"  or " I have always fed him treats out of my hand, but now...."


That's because they are usually AFRAID of the rooster....they treat him like he's still a baby. He's not a human: chickens have different rules of behavior, but that doesn't mean you can't have a nice rooster, or even a pet rooster!!


Pet your hens but keep your roo at a distance and never let him approach you boldly and directly.  I know there are exceptions to every rule but you only have to read the inordinate amount of posts regarding aggressive roo behaviour to realize that these are not cats, bunnies, dogs or any other pet animals.


Also, totally agree: you shouldn't treat your roo like he's just an innocent, bunny, or human or something: he'll almost certainly be mean if you  do that, so treat him with respect, but there's no need to keep your distance from him if you want a tame rooster.


Anyways, I wrote a whole long answer on Answers.com, so this is my answer from there, until I have time to edit it more, and add more to it:

Let me just say first that I am speaking from years of experience. I have about a dozen roosters right now, am not afraid of any of them, they are all tame, and even the one "mean" (meaning overly macho) rooster is easy to deal with. I even know toddlers that have been taught "the ways of the rooster", and are totally unafraid of them! celebrate


It's actually much easier than most people think. There are very, very few roosters that can't be taught to respect you, but even those rare few truly mean ones can be dealt with easily, even the 'meaner' breeds, such as barred rocks. barnie

Simple steps are: Don't ever be afraid of him, make sure he knows who's boss (without hurting him), and tame him down.

First off, the # 1 step, and the VERY MOST IMPORTANT STEP, is to NOT be afraid of the rooster: if you are, many roosters will simply take advantage of what they see as a weakness. hide This applies to many different animals too. And as they say with dogs, you don't have to train the dog, just the human. As I said, there are almost no roosters that can't be taught to at least respect you. There are very few feisty ones that will continue to attack, but you should easily be able to deal with them.
Even if you're still afraid of him, don't act like it: DO NOT back off, do NOT run away, don't throw things at him, as that will make him even more mean. It may take some getting used to, but once you really get to know the rooster, you won't be afraid of him anymore.

Step #2 and #3 is to tame your rooster as much as possible. This serves the dual purpose of making him 'know who's boss'. This is much easier when he's very young, and gets harder the older (and more stuck in his ways) he gets, but it's usually doable. Pick him up whenever you can. Then, pet him, rub his wattles, carry him around, etc. It seems to 'humble' them (or just humiliate them!) and show them who the 'bigger rooster' is. It also shows him you're not afraid of him. Feeding him a treat here and there does a TON to make him tamer. Just don't make the mistake of treating him like a total baby: many people do this with their dogs, then are afraid of them. They simply have different 'rules' of behaving, so treating them TOO much like humans usually doesn't work well. Once you're used to him and would never be afraid of him though, you can treat him like as much of a baby as you want!
Whenever a rooster is acting like a bit of a smart-alec, or even makes the slightest move to attack, I pick him up, make a bit of a fool out of him in front of the hens, and sometimes shake him up a bit if he's being a bit mean (without hurting him of course).
If I DO encounter a mean rooster, I have a bit of a 'matador session' with him, sidestepping whenever he tries to attack, then grabbing him. Not saying you have to do this, but once you're used to roosters, it's quite useful, as, again, it makes the rooster respect you, (and is actually quite fun wink.


Some people have trouble just catching the rooster, or getting him to come to them.....that means he's probably scared of you, and a scared rooster is quite often a mean rooster, so how do you deal with this? Well, for some of you, it may just work out that way: maybe you don't WANT a tame rooster, or maybe you want him to be scared of you, but honestly, I really wouldn't recommend this, especially if you have kids around.
Remember: a scared rooster is also an unstable rooster much of the time. Some roosters will take any chance to attack if they see an opportunity.  Even though he may be scared of you, and never attack you because he's just that scared, if he sees someone different, or someone smaller, he will often take that opportunity to attack THEM. It's just him protecting his territory from what he sees as a threat.

So what if you DON'T want him to see humans as a threat? What do you do? Well, biggest thing is to NOT hurt him: hurting him repeatedly will just make him scared and on the offensive. Getting him tame if he's so scared though is a bit more of a challenge, and is easiest if you start when he's a chick. Best thing to do is simply offer him something to eat. Sit somewhere close, and don't make eye contact with him or make any sudden moves that will scare him. If your hens are tame, that makes it a LOT easier. If you have them come up to you, the rooster will see there's probably no danger and come closer. The problem with a "moon (lead) rooster" though, is that he usually has a thing about getting caught while in front of the hens. The tame roosters I have are the subordinates: the lead rooster is always tame for me, but doesn't act it as long as he is the lead rooster. Sure, I can catch him, but he doesn't like he. He sees ME as the boss, and as a rooster, so he's apprehensive about taking food from my hand, especially in front of the hens. This is actually a good thing though, because, as I said, he sees me as the alpha rooster, which is just how I want it. Still, he WILL eat from out of my hand.

I can tell you one thing: chasing your rooster is NOT going to make him tame. I find it pretty funny that whenever I take my chickens to the school for a visit (sort of an 'end of year' program), whenever one of them gets loose, the kids chase after it like maniacs. They would catch the chicken so much easier if they would simply squat down, slowly approach, and better yet, offer them some food. Even if my chickens weren't tame, that would be easier than running after them. (And yeah, I admit it, I just let them chase after the chicken, because it was just so darn funny! tonguelol ).

So yeah, taming your rooster is going to take some time, if he's not a chick, but you CAN still just catch him, then hold him for a while. Show him that it's not a bad thing: feed him something. Then, just let him go slowly (when he's not struggling) and let him walk away. Don't make a move towards him: he might take it as a threat and become that much more apprehensive. Best thing though is, like I said, to just slowly tame him by sitting near him, and getting closer and closer to him. It takes time, but it's worth it. Just make sure your hens are getting tame too: he's probably not going to get tame if his hens aren't.

And just think: don't you WANT to have a tame rooster, who you don't have to be paranoid about all the time, who you can actually pick up and pet?

Another thing is that even if you DO tame your chickens from the time they're babies, they always go through a sort of 'rebellious' stage, almost exactly like a human teenager! One week, they will be so tame they'll come running to you when you come out the door, the next, they won't want to be picked up, and shy away if you try to catch them. I amazes me just how much this parallels how many human teenagers act: it's not that they aren't tame, it's just like they're 'too cool' for you now (not that I treat my chickens like they're my kids or something, lol....it's just something they do). I'm not exactly sure why they do this, and not all of them do, but just continue to be nice to them, don't try TOO hard pick them up. They will still come if you have food, so that's a good thing to do to keep them tame. Eventually, the stage will pass, and if you did keep them tame, then they should come up to you like usual.

Honestly, I never even used to pet my chickens until a year or two ago....they never seemed to like it. If you do it when they're chicks though, they get used to it and seem to really like it. Also, they like it when you 'preen' them, which is, in a way, weird, because chickens are such social, and yet anti-social birds....they like to be with other chickens, and yet they aren't affectionate towards each other....it's interesting. Course, you obviously don't have to spoil your chickens or anything (mine don't get special feed....just leftovers/compost sometimes). wink

It's very important to teach (in other words, show by example) little kids how to at least not be afraid of chickens, if you can, and they'll take over the rest, if they like spending time with them (of course, you should supervise if you have an unstable rooster). If the rooster is really untrustworthy, you may even want to teach them how to dodge and grab the rooster if he attacks, and, again, supervise. An unstable rooster who's not used to people will attack when he gets the chance, while a well-adjusted rooster will not. Even the well adjusted rooster will sometimes attack if someone is afraid of him, such as if someone runs whenever he makes what they consider to be 'a move to attack them'. Small children often make more jerky movements, that can alarm a rooster. Most people seem to be afraid that even nice chickens will peck them - I have a friend that was afraid of baby pigeons! lol). Of course, don't ever leave a little kid unsupervised with the rooster.

A few people who don't know better might say this is the 'wimps' way to go about it: taming your rooster down and even treating him like a pet, but it's NOT. It's actually recommended by many chicken experts, and by far the best way. Sure, you don't have to treat him like a pet, but if he's at least tame, or if he at least respects you, without fearing you too much, you'll BOTH benefit from it. If your rooster is afraid of you and you're not afraid of him, that can work, but he'll be scared of you and take any opportunity to attack you when your back is turned. It's much better to get him to actually be tame and even like you. Most of the roosters I have are so tame I can simply walk up to them, pick them up, and pet them, all without ever getting attacked, even when you walk away, even if you're a little kid.


As I said, it's much easier than most people think, and if you try, you can have quite a nice rooster, and maybe even a nice pet. thumbsup




Yes....I know, I know, you may say "but MY rooster is way beyond hope!". I don't think there is ANY rooster beyond hope. Even if he can't be tamed down much, I certainly think (know?) that he CAN be made at least manageable. As I said, it's not the rooster, it's the person. Now that I'm no longer afraid of any rooster, I think "why the HECK was I ever afraid of something that tiny?!?!?!!?"lau
Even so though, you should always treat your rooster with the proper respect....he may not hurt adults anymore, but roosters often see small children as a threat, or a rival, so you should try to get your kids used to him, and watch him for signs of 'going over to the dark side', in which case you'll have to spend more time working with him.

If you DO have a rooster that just NEVER seems to learn....rare, but sometimes happens with the really, really macho ones - as akpeeps pointed out, you can give him a squirt of water with a water bottle or water gun whenever he tries to attack. You don't want to make him afraid of you of course, but I had one rooster that was so super macho/spazzy that a bit of water would not scare him.....I think it would help with his macho problem though! I wouldn't recommend doing this unless you've already tried all the other techniques, and he STILL sneaks a peck at you. Roosters are all different, and some could be really scared by just a bit of water, which would set them back and possibly make them more aggressive/unstable. I occasionally do it just to a chicken (hen or rooster) that is being a bit too smart-alec-y, but not much.


Wow, now *I* feel like a total smart-alec....sorry. oldidunno Just that I really, really, REALLY hate to see nice roosters go just because they're mean (in other words, just going by their instinct). hit

Sure, I DO understand that there will probably always be an excess of roosters, and that eating your own is WAY better than buying a chicken dinner from the store. BUT, for those people who DO want to know how to deal with their roosters, for people who DON'T always want to resort to killing, then this thread is for you! So please, not too many posts about how you should just kill the rooster: this is for people who DON'T want to do that: who WANT to learn!
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Good luck, and please, if you have questions for me or anything, don't hesitate to ask. I really, REALLY hope this helps some of you, and if it does, please, tell me! My life will then be complete lol thumbsup



More Notes:

* Sometimes a really cocky rooster (usually the younger ones) can be taught to be more submissive by being put in a pen with dominant rooster. Just make sure they don't beat him up.

*If a rooster is pecking, or being overly aggressive, sometimes what I do, is I hold the roosters comb, at the base with a bit of pressure, then I push his head down. Also, you can push his head down by his beak. After a few seconds, after he's stopped struggling, I let go and pet him a bit. If he tries it again, I just repeat the process, until he stops. Sometimes, I shake him up a bit (without hurting him), just to show him that I may be a friend, but I am not a force to tangle with. This happened with my BR rooster, Jengo: he had bald patches on his wings and feathers that were just growing in, so these spots were sensitive. Jengo also happened to be a more aggressive-prone rooster, and thus, when I touched is 'sensitive spots' he pecked me. I didn't want to hurt him by touching those spots, but that is NOT something I will stand for. In a way, he did have a reason to peck me: it was obviously irritating to him when I even touched those spots, but that is NO excuse to peck me, the 'lead rooster'.
I used this technique on him, repeatedly touching his wings lightly, then pushing his head down whenever he pecked or even tried to peck, until he totally submitted, and didn't even look at me without permission. A major part of it is simply consistency: slack off and let him peck you a couple of times, and you lose that much progress. Amazing how similar to dogs they are in that way, isn't it? Anyways, Jengo was a rooster (who went to a great home BTW) that I'm 99% sure would have been very aggressive with someone who didn't know how to handle him, but I tamed him down and made him play nice by simply working with him a bit. As with many things confidence is key!


Edited by Yazzo - 9/22/10 at 12:10am
My Guide to Roosters: http://www.backyardchickens.com/web/viewblog.php?id=63850-the-definite-guide-to-roosters. This is some of my rooster knowledge from years of working with roosters compiled into one page. If you have an aggressive rooster, you CAN turn him into a nice one!
My Guide to Roosters: http://www.backyardchickens.com/web/viewblog.php?id=63850-the-definite-guide-to-roosters. This is some of my rooster knowledge from years of working with roosters compiled into one page. If you have an aggressive rooster, you CAN turn him into a nice one!
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hear hear bowclapclapclapwootwoot

my motto is if it happens that way in nature its natural
if not ill find an alternative
get as close as i can
my motto is if it happens that way in nature its natural
if not ill find an alternative
get as close as i can
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Aw, thanks! hugs Glad at least one person liked it so far! ya
Love your sig BTW. smile

My Guide to Roosters: http://www.backyardchickens.com/web/viewblog.php?id=63850-the-definite-guide-to-roosters. This is some of my rooster knowledge from years of working with roosters compiled into one page. If you have an aggressive rooster, you CAN turn him into a nice one!
My Guide to Roosters: http://www.backyardchickens.com/web/viewblog.php?id=63850-the-definite-guide-to-roosters. This is some of my rooster knowledge from years of working with roosters compiled into one page. If you have an aggressive rooster, you CAN turn him into a nice one!
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thanks

i dont believe there is an animal that cant be retrained not just roo i think if enough ppl think like an animal when dealing with said animal it makes it easier to understand animal behaviour and deal with upsets

my motto is if it happens that way in nature its natural
if not ill find an alternative
get as close as i can
my motto is if it happens that way in nature its natural
if not ill find an alternative
get as close as i can
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Here hear!clap
I think there are many people that will agree to that: just look at people like Cesar Millan: there's almost NO dog he can't rehabilitate. Not just Millan though...there are lots of people like that....ARRG, now I can't think of any others though! lol lol
I would take all the mean roosters in the world if I could! lol


Edited by Yazzo - 8/25/10 at 12:11pm
My Guide to Roosters: http://www.backyardchickens.com/web/viewblog.php?id=63850-the-definite-guide-to-roosters. This is some of my rooster knowledge from years of working with roosters compiled into one page. If you have an aggressive rooster, you CAN turn him into a nice one!
My Guide to Roosters: http://www.backyardchickens.com/web/viewblog.php?id=63850-the-definite-guide-to-roosters. This is some of my rooster knowledge from years of working with roosters compiled into one page. If you have an aggressive rooster, you CAN turn him into a nice one!
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OK, I'm sold. How much to come tame my roo?

A Hen is only an Egg's way of making another Egg.
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Dear Yazzo:ya
This is just what I've been looking for!clap I have multiple roosters in my unsexed batch of chicks.  I belive there are 10 ( I lost 3 to a hawk) .  1 rooster is larger than all the rest and georgeous!...but a bit agressive at 9 weeks.  The others don't spar with him - just eachother.  Do you think I need to thin out the roosters?  The only way would be for them to go to Camp Freezer since there is so much cock fighting somadtongue in my area I cannot be sure they would not be used for bait and to die by my hand would be more humane.

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I love Chillin' With My Peeps - makes me happy!
Mother Hen to 1 geritatric Cat, 1 rescued (dumb as a box of rocks) Golden Retriever,  a flock of Cute-as-a-button Ameraucana Wheaten Large Fowl feathered friends, and 1 perfect husband/best friend.
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State of Illinois Certified NPIP Pullorum Tester

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Thank you! This perfectly explains why my once cuddling pullets are now acting like I don't exist (they are 9 weeks).

BUT I have a 5 week old rooser. A hatchery oops, he's a NH Red. How can I begin this taming? Should I single him out and give him more affection (or humilation). Can a 5 week old rooster have those emotions? I know he's a rooster and I would like to take as many steps now as I can to ensure we don't have a problem later. We do have 2 small children.

Wife and mother of 2, hen leader to: 8 BR, 2EE, 6 NH Red,  2 cats, &  1 African Spurred Tortoise
Wife and mother of 2, hen leader to: 8 BR, 2EE, 6 NH Red,  2 cats, &  1 African Spurred Tortoise
post #9 of 149

Thanks for all the rooster info.  I have rooster questions (I am a first-time chicken owner).

Mine is 16 weeks, and so far, not aggressive.  He gets out of my way when I walk around, but I'm not sure he's actually afraid of me.  I'll need to work on picking him up.  I have never picked him up, and rarely pick up a hen.  They run towards me when I approach, but if I reach for them, they are gone.  Should I sneak up on him?  Or train him to approach before I attempt to pick him up?

Also, I read all the time about roosters finding food for the hens, or letting the hens eat first.  Mine just heads right for the food.  Will a rooster learn these skills as he matures?
I appreciate any advice.

Robin

post #10 of 149

Ok I have a 14 week old unexpected rooster.  I will see if it works and let you know!    He is not bad, but I dont want him to become an issue. 

Thanks for the well written piece.  It has helped to reduce my stress about having a rooster.  I didn't really want one as I thought they were all nasty.  My DH really wants to keep him so we will try your technique.

Deb - with 3 wonderful boys (er young men),  maverick genius DH, 1 'Cocker Spanisha girl', 1 Great Pyr,  and 19 hens, 2 roosters.  Bees started in the hives.  5 alpacas, 1 guardian llama, 4  Nigerian Dwarf does and 4 Icelandic lamb ewes.  Life is good. 

No matter where you go, there you are.  BB

Deb - with 3 wonderful boys (er young men),  maverick genius DH, 1 'Cocker Spanisha girl', 1 Great Pyr,  and 19 hens, 2 roosters.  Bees started in the hives.  5 alpacas, 1 guardian llama, 4  Nigerian Dwarf does and 4 Icelandic lamb ewes.  Life is good. 

No matter where you go, there you are.  BB

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