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Then how come all the people that I ask about sumatras tell me that a sumatra should have a big head. I have talked to several poultry judges about how the heads should be on a sumatra and they say that they should have big heads. I have even asked Doug Akers about it and he said that they should have big heads too. Doug is a licensed poultry judge and he is the president of the American Sumatra Association. It also says nothing in the standard of perfection that Sumatras should have a small head. but it dose say that they should have a short beak.  They also should not look like Game birds.       Something to think about.idunno.gif           

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post #1212 of 5186
You are right, it does not say in the SOP that Sumatras should have small heads, it says short round heads. But short round head is also not a big head either. They should have a nice well balanced head, not small but not big either. Short and round and not long. A big head to me is Asseel, Malay, Shamo, Cornish, Brahma, etc. not what is seen on winning Sumatras. Just a clarification, Doug Akers is certainly one of the more knowledgable Sumatra breeders and chicken breeders out there, but unless he just got his APA judging license in the past year he is not listed in the APA judges list. If someone on here knows that he has passed then great because I would love to hire him to come judge one of my next shows I put on.
Edited by Bentley - 12/7/12 at 7:37pm

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post #1213 of 5186
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Originally Posted by flyingmonkeypoop View Post

I will work on getting pics in time. Right now we have a dun rooster, a few black roosters, and lots of black and dun females that we will be breeding from. I haven't gotten any pics lately but we are expecting a group of new birds to come this week from a friend who decided to work on bantams. When they get here, I'll try to get pics of the roosters and hens.

 We like ours gamey. Not pit/fighting looking gamey, but more of a wild/feral style gamey, it seems to make them look more regal and elegant

 

I might be interested in trying out some duns in the future. Please let me know if you have some eggs available in the spring. Thanks! 

post #1214 of 5186

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Some females from breeding pens this summer. I'm excited to see how the chicks turn out for next year. If only I had time to take them to shows hmm.png

 

I was able to get several blacks and I ended up with a lot of extra blues and splashes. 

 

At least one of the hens is about 8 years old. From my first trio of sumatras. 

 

 

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Had this male for most of the summer but a coon got him toward the end. I have five males from him though. I'm excited to see what they look like next year. 

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Originally Posted by joe810 View Post

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Some females from breeding pens this summer. I'm excited to see how the chicks turn out for next year. If only I had time to take them to shows hmm.png

 

I was able to get several blacks and I ended up with a lot of extra blues and splashes. 

 

At least one of the hens is about 8 years old. From my first trio of sumatras. 

 

 

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Had this male for most of the summer but a coon got him toward the end. I have five males from him though. I'm excited to see what they look like next year. 

love those hens!!!

post #1217 of 5186

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the best pic i could get of my only sumatra! flo!

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ESSAYONS et FASSAYONS!
Let us try, and Let us do!
*WARNING*
READ AT YOUR OWN RISK!
PROBLEM SOLVED
PROBLEM STAYING SOLVED
SAPPERS/ENGINEERS LEAD THE WAY!

Longtails! PURE AND MIXED!!!
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post #1218 of 5186

the reason for me breeding for big heads is not only what I have learned but what I have experience with breeding them. the big heads make the beak look short and have a much more rounded shape to the head. now a smaller head makes the beak look longer.

here are some photos of prof of that.

 

here is a hen with a small head now see how long the beak looks. and  it dose not even look that round.

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now look at this hen. She has a very big head and look at how much shorter the beak is as well as how round the head shape is compared to the black hen.

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Edited by championsumatra - 12/9/12 at 5:06pm
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post #1219 of 5186
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very nice hens!! and rooster too. you have some really nice sumatrasep.gif

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post #1220 of 5186

the black hen is how they should look both are nice birds i like the black one though

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