Cornish Thread - Page 27

Al

I seem to be having a lot of problems with my memory, because you did not say you picked him and the others up at auction, and I apologize to you  for that.  On the other hand, your opinion of his quality has changed and memory of why you bought him must not be real accurate. Here is your quote from  http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/316007/red-laced-cornish-x-and-project-talk-pics-p-8/1520

" I scored a really nice white from a dark hatch last yr, he has some smudging but it's very light but he has a ton of potential, for a young bird. to add some body to my teen whites. "

It clearly reads that you bought him to improve the body qualities of your WCs, and he is clearly pictured penned with some DC pullets, so you at least attempted to breed him. I'm just trying to point out we all start with what we can find, and learn as we go.   

this has been an interesting read, one old cornish breeder that I have worked with told me that you have to build the house first then worry about the piant.  this is true with whites if you are willing to be patient you can breed the "red or smokeyness" from them that happens in these type of projects.

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Originally Posted by spangledcornish 

this has been an interesting read, one old cornish breeder that I have worked with told me that you have to build the house first then worry about the piant.  this is true with whites if you are willing to be patient you can breed the "red or smokeyness" from them that happens in these type of projects.

Adam, Good to see on again. I liked you words of wisdom.

Sure at first you get them then decide after looking at them for awhile if there going to work, he didn't and I had to pen him somewhere LOL. it is what it is, you do work with what you can get but, If they don't shape up and you get a long hard look you make changes and choices. It's a tough game and I ain't perfect, but I don't breed to make more work for myself thus setting myself back. Cornishmen are as tough as the breed itself.

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Originally Posted by spangledcornish 

this has been an interesting read, one old cornish breeder that I have worked with told me that you have to build the house first then worry about the piant.  this is true with whites if you are willing to be patient you can breed the "red or smokeyness" from them that happens in these type of projects.

Thank you for the in-put Spangled. I chose to use my WC over the Dark pullets for the very simple reason that my Darks are built better than any of the three White pullets I was able to get. I sure did not expect to hatch either silvery white or black chicks from the cross, was hoping they might be normal DC colored but carrying recessive white. I figured I would probably start seeing some whites with a bit of bleed problem in the next generation, not this one.  I do believe that on the average the crosses are showing more promise than the ones that hatched from my white pullets, paint job ignored, and do intend to keep working with them. I'm also setting some eggs to hopefully determine if my white cockerel is carrying one copy of dominate white along with recessive white and silver. It would help if I knew someone who could explain why my crosses have this phenotype, but feel like I'm getting a lot of conflicting information and what seems some like useless criticism. 

It has been difficult getting a start with quality Cornish, and I'm sure I have not started with the best there are, just the best I could find. 

hey guys  after reading your discussion on chick color it reminded me of a passage int he book Cornish Bantams by Jeffery's:

"white Cornish bantam chicks are white,yellow-white or smokey white when hatched.  The white chicks are are the ones that usually turn out the best, the yellow-white the next in line. the smokey white ones frequently have dark shanks. "

In addition I do agree that you have to watch your color in these breeding projects, however if you end up with color but lack type it can be a longer row to hoe, especially with the unique body type and qualities of Cornish.

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Originally Posted by spangledcornish 

hey guys  after reading your discussion on chick color it reminded me of a passage int he book Cornish Bantams by Jeffery's:

 

"white Cornish bantam chicks are white,yellow-white or smokey white when hatched.  The white chicks are are the ones that usually turn out the best, the yellow-white the next in line. the smokey white ones frequently have dark shanks. "

 

 

In addition I do agree that you have to watch your color in these breeding projects, however if you end up with color but lack type it can be a longer row to hoe, especially with the unique body type and qualities of Cornish.

Thank you very much Spangled, that was very helpful. Yes, dusky or greenish shanks are something I know to have been a problem in some of my pullet's past. The smokey chicks do have smokey colored shanks now, and I'm waiting to see how much they change. I guess I should not be concerned that I got both silvery white [many with black bleed showing] and black chicks from my white X dark breeding, or so determined to figure out why, and just be happy that they look to be wider and thicker than many of the others. 

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Originally Posted by SD_Paulo 

I recently acquired a trio of Bantam Darks. The hen and cock birdp have a bare bald spot won the back of the head. The breeder told me it was a trait of his original bloodlines that he has continued. I forgot the gentlemens name he mention but would like to know if others might remember.

Glad I found this thread. Will try and post a few shot of my trio.

Welcome, I would enjoy seeing your pictures. Sorry, I don't really know any breeders, and have read of the naked spot thing happening but do not know the genetic term[s] for it nor ever encountered it myself.