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Bob Blosl's Heritage Large Fowl Thread - Page 460
Featured Stories on BackYard Chickenspost #4592 of 158003/9/12 at 4:24pm
Just for fun & because it'stoo cold to go outside today I went through a few Standards. As far back as the 1958 edition the New Hampshire description hasn't changed. Didn't go back any further than that.
Quote:Originally Posted by fowlman01
I don't think the Standard for the new Hamps changed Bob. The 1980 APA SOP has a RIR and NH color chart on page 78.
Keep in mind that it is impossible to accurately match feather colors with any kind of printing process.......but they should be close. Hopefully page 78 has not been in the sun or indoor light for too long.
APA General Licensed Judge with 50 years experience raising and showing all manner of fowl.
APA General Licensed Judge with 50 years experience raising and showing all manner of fowl.post #4593 of 158003/9/12 at 4:26pmpost #4594 of 158003/9/12 at 4:51pmThread Starter
Great pictures in the standard. First time the folks on this web site seen pictures from the standard like this.
I still think you want to breed for great type and then get the color you want. Just get you some New Hampshires ,, a chair sit back and enjoy the view. Bob
Edited by Robert Blosl - 3/9/12 at 4:52pmpost #4595 of 158003/9/12 at 6:19pm
Speaking of the APA Standard of Perfection. Check out this set of Standards. First edition in this set published in 1888 and goes through the 1973 centennial edition.
Severely afflicted with the contagious bird disease "gotta have more!"
Breeder of..... a bunch of birds
Severely afflicted with the contagious bird disease "gotta have more!"
Breeder of..... a bunch of birdspost #4596 of 158003/10/12 at 2:27amQuote:
Oh WOW ! I would so love to have that box of old books!post #4597 of 158003/10/12 at 4:25ampost #4598 of 158003/10/12 at 4:35amQuote:
I came back to this thread to take another look myself. I thought about that bird this morning. That was nice to see. Good looking dog in the avatar also.
post #4599 of 158003/10/12 at 5:42am
I believe that to say under the New Hampshire
1. Male Saddle
2. Male Hackle
3. Male Back
4. Female Back
Correct? Pretty dark coloration on that female back, that's more like the chestnut color I'm used to, not the Buff color that some are saying they should be.
Those golden neck feathers in some of the females are making them to be darker than they are seems to me.
And yes even the ones that don't have the golden necks are still two-toned also, I get that, but I'm thinking they aren't AS too dark (now that I've seen the feathers), as have been stated by some of the high officials but its still left up to them to their discretion though right? I can understand there being differences in shades of color here on the screen but completely different color tones?, nah. I'm seeing chestnut whether its dark chestnut, med chestnut, or light chestnut IDK but not buff /golden bay and that's just about what I gather is being said these females are to look like.
Edited by catdaddyfro - 3/10/12 at 6:06amYou can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, you can make a purse out of it, but it won't be silk. LOLMaybe in about another 30-40 years I'll get this "being an expert" thing figured out by then. LOLStill trying to practice Granny's advice 'if you don't have anything nice to say then keep it to yourself' LOL been at it for 45 years still don't have it down pat yet!You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, you can make a purse out of it, but it won't be silk. LOLMaybe in about another 30-40 years I'll get this "being an expert" thing figured out by then. LOLStill trying to practice Granny's advice 'if you don't have anything nice to say then keep it to yourself' LOL been at it for 45 years still don't have it down pat yet!post #4600 of 158003/10/12 at 7:16amThread Starter
What a collection of Standards This is a first as well as many be inners had no idea that there was so many books printed. Look at the upper right hand corner the color plate for rhode Island reds
this is the shade of color that you want on a Heritage rhode Island Red . Dark even rich red color.
I hope this helps some of the folks who have New Hampshire color pattern issues. I dont know a thing about the color pattern and as a old Rhode Island Red breeder if the old timers I interviewed years ago knew I was writing this they would roll over in their graves as they hated New Ham shires as it helped bring down the popularity of the rhode island reds in the 1950s.
Like all chicken fads they come and they go but the breeds that breed true move forward.
Lots of folks are interested in this thread and look at the new breeds I am getting results to locate.
Silver Laced Wyandottes and Black Jersey Giants.
Now I know a fellow who has old line of both breeds and I dont know how I can get my hands on his strain but I am going to call him this weekend.
His name is Frank Reese of Good Shepard Ranch in Kansas the fellow that got Jeremy the Barred Rock Large Fowl that so many of you have right now.
Maybe he can bring some young birds or eggs out to a location from his farm and get them into the hands of another out sider then this person could ship these started chicks to us and we can get this old strain into the hands of you folks. His blood lines are between 30 to 40 years old that he got from the old master breeders years ago.
So I will keep you posted on my success. bob
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