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I guess I will throw in some pictures from the same breeder. Out of the 27 birds I got from him I will be down to a cockerel and two pullets for next year. They show great type and from what I understand his bloodlines to be I am proud to have these birds in my yard. It would be great if the oldest heritage breed was available in good type at hatcheries all over the US. We all know good stock is very hard to find, and this breeder provides a good bird that has lots of potential. I bought eggs from a small farm down in NC, most of the birds are junk but there is a pullet that came out of that flock that catches my eye every time she walks by. Keep looking

http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/50799_brown_flock_2.jpg

http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/50799_brown_flock.jpg

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Evening everyone,

I've been reading some of my past posts here on this thread and I feel that I must apologise for many of them in the mid-part of the thread; Particularly to Saladin & a few others.

Anyway; Nice Dominiques, John. Sorry that you were disappointed with the others.

My Buckeye chicks are doing well; still unsure of genders. I only got a couple this year. I hope to raise many, many more next year.

Mitch

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post #4073 of 12270

I had contacted him prior to my postings. No one asked me that, but yes I did contact him and no he was not ready to correct the problem.  I just wanted to know if anyone else had the same problems this year or if we were the only ones. I am only being open and honest about the quality we received - just like so many have done on here before when getting birds from other hatcheries. If we happened to just get a bad hatch, that would influence our decision on if we should keep the few remaining birds and breed them in their own pen.

Work with my business partner on American Dominiques in large fowl and bantam,

also keep a few Black Sumatras in large fowl and Coturnix Quail in Tibetan and Tibetan Tuxedo.

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Work with my business partner on American Dominiques in large fowl and bantam,

also keep a few Black Sumatras in large fowl and Coturnix Quail in Tibetan and Tibetan Tuxedo.

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post #4074 of 12270
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Originally Posted by punky rooster 

Evening everyone,

I've been reading some of my past posts here on this thread and I feel that I must apologise for many of them in the mid-part of the thread; Particularly to Saladin & a few others.

Anyway; Nice Dominiques, John. Sorry that you were disappointed with the others.

My Buckeye chicks are doing well; still unsure of genders. I only got a couple this year. I hope to raise many, many more next year.

Mitch


Are you still doing LF or did you indeed switch to buckeye bantams?

post #4075 of 12270

What did the breeder actually say to you? I find it hard to believe he would not stand by the quality of his stock. And fwiw, he's not a hatchery, he's a longtime, master breeder who has been working with poultry for over 50 years. Big difference between a hatchery and a breeder (even one who works with many breeds.)

post #4076 of 12270

Edited to put out flame.


Edited by centrarchid - 7/14/11 at 9:51am
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Originally Posted by punky rooster 

Evening everyone,

I've been reading some of my past posts here on this thread and I feel that I must apologise for many of them in the mid-part of the thread; Particularly to Saladin & a few others.

Anyway; Nice Dominiques, John. Sorry that you were disappointed with the others.

My Buckeye chicks are doing well; still unsure of genders. I only got a couple this year. I hope to raise many, many more next year.

Mitch


You're fine punky.

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And the largest flock of Cubalayas east of the Mississippi
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NPIP 56-378, AI tested Clean, Farm Inspected by Clemson Poultry
Breeding Orientals,Games and Ducks;
With a large selection of Asil
And the largest flock of Cubalayas east of the Mississippi
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post #4078 of 12270
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Originally Posted by punky rooster 

Evening everyone,

I've been reading some of my past posts here on this thread and I feel that I must apologise for many of them in the mid-part of the thread; Particularly to Saladin & a few others.

Anyway; Nice Dominiques, John. Sorry that you were disappointed with the others.

My Buckeye chicks are doing well; still unsure of genders. I only got a couple this year. I hope to raise many, many more next year.

Mitch


Are you still doing LF or did you indeed switch to buckeye bantams?


Ginny,

I was going to do Bantam Buckeyes with my LF Barred Rocks, but the Buckeyes won me over. Too nice a breed to let go. My favorite.

Mitch

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post #4079 of 12270
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Originally Posted by centrarchid 

I think as soon as a breeder begins the sale of birds raised / incubated they are a hatchery, especially if operated at / or with intent of a profit.


I completely and respectfully disagree. I am not a hatchery! But I have hatched and shipped almost 500 chicks this year. But that doesn't make me a hatchery, far from it!

Breeders work to breed to the Standard, cull heavily those birds that do not match the Standard, and often, (but not always) show their birds.

Hatcheries do not generally go out of their way to breed to the Standard, do not make a dedicated attempt to cull birds that do not match the Standard, and generally do not show their own birds.

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Just because someone is a very capable breeder with a strong reputation for quality does not make them immmune to scrutiny.  If product can not be scrutenized, then the reputation will over time be nothing more than a reputation ulitmately with little or no basis in fact.


No one is saying a given breeder should be immune from scrutiny. But the rules of this forum preclude mentioning business disputes with others using their name. And to do so in such a public forum is, in my opinion, very bad form (aside from being against forum rules.)

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My position on this follows same logic intended to protect consumers from tainted foods / drugs or automobile breaking systems that tend to fail.  If consumer can not report, especially if producer not willing to recall or replace, then public / other consumers need to get into loop.


Your logic is fallacious. Not the same at all, apples and oranges. A private person is not a corporation, nor are chickens something that can be compared to tainted food.

My main point here is, a person's reputation is something that they can take years to build. And with the advent of Internet forums such as this, a sterling reputation can be badly sullied in the space of one irritable post. Once that has happened, there's no going back.

So I will ask again, before any of you consider posting unhappy messages about business done with someone, please contact the breeder in question and try to work it out. And even if you cannot do so, posting specifics here is in violation of forum rules, and should not be done.

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You're fine punky.


Thanks, Doc. I really don't like those old posts... I've learned a lot since then.

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