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post #4601 of 12298
3/10/12 at 7:16am
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What a collection of Standards This is a first as well as many be inners had no idea that there was so many books printed. Look at the upper right hand corner the color plate for rhode Island reds

this is the shade of color that you want on a Heritage rhode Island Red . Dark even rich red color.

 

I hope this helps some of the folks who have New Hampshire color pattern issues. I dont know a thing about the color pattern and as a old Rhode Island Red breeder if the old timers I interviewed years ago knew I was writing this they would roll over in their graves as they hated New Ham shires as it helped bring down the popularity of the rhode island reds in the 1950s.

 

Like all chicken fads they come and they go but the breeds that breed true move forward.

 

Lots of folks are interested in this thread and look at the new breeds I am getting results to locate.

 

Silver Laced Wyandottes and Black Jersey Giants.

 

Now I know a fellow who has  old line of both breeds and I dont know how I can get my hands on his strain but I am going to call him this weekend.

 

His name is Frank Reese of Good Shepard Ranch in Kansas the fellow that got Jeremy the Barred Rock Large Fowl that so many of you have right now.

 

Maybe he can bring some young birds or eggs out to a location from his farm and get them into the hands of another out sider then this person could ship these started chicks to us and we can get this old strain into the hands of you folks. His blood lines are between 30 to 40 years old that he got from the old master breeders years ago.

 

So I will keep you posted on my success. bob

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Need a gift for a love one go to my web site and look at my custom turned ink pens. A portion of my profits goes to charitys in our local area and one poultry club The Panhandle Poutlry Club in Penscola Florida. Two shows one in March and December

 

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post #4602 of 12298
3/10/12 at 7:52am

A commercial break... Some newbies that I've added to my Mille Fleur leghorn pens and the rest of the flocks

 

new roo copy.jpgpullet copy.jpgflock2 copy.jpghen copy.jpgroo #2 copy.jpgflock #1 copy.jpg

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post #4603 of 12298
3/10/12 at 8:11am
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LL

 

I believe that to say under the New Hampshire

 

1. Male Saddle

 

2. Male Hackle

 

3. Male Back

 

4. Female Back

 

Correct? Pretty dark coloration on that female back, that's more like the chestnut color I'm used to, not the Buff color that some are saying they should be.

 

Those golden neck feathers in some of the females are making them to be darker than they are seems to me.

 

And yes even the ones that don't have the golden necks are still two-toned also, I get that, but I'm thinking they aren't AS too dark (now that I've seen the feathers), as have been stated by some of the high officials but its still left up to them to their discretion though right? I can understand there being differences in shades of color here on the screen but completely different color  tones?,  nah. I'm seeing chestnut whether its dark chestnut, med chestnut, or light chestnut IDK but not buff /golden bay and that's just about what I gather is being said these females are to look like.

 

Jeff




Jeff,

 

I have many years of commercial graphics experience (digital and analog) and yes monitors can easily change the color tones.......not just shades. I owned a printing company for many years, we calibrated monitors every morning.  It is a well known to any graphics person and that is why we spend a ton of money to calibrate our monitors everyday. The color plate I see on my monitor looks pretty accurate at the moment. In any event this color plate is the most accurate way to determine color that I have run across so far. I am trying to get pictures of the old time NH's.

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post #4604 of 12298
3/10/12 at 9:43am

I tried to take pictures of the males, but it is so windy outside either their feathers are blowing all over or they put their heads down into the wind.  So they'll have to wait until another day.  Here are pictures of the pullets.  They've been bred for the last 6 weeks so their feathers are all roughed up.  I took a lot of pictures, but the chickens always know when not to cooperate in a good position.

 

RIW pullet 3-10 B.JPG

RIW pullet 3-10.JPG

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post #4605 of 12298
3/11/12 at 9:31am
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Those are trying to look like the Rhode Island type. Need to put breeding pressure on the extend keels and try  to get the old fashion Rhode Island red brick shape. You got some very good looking girls there very surprising. bob

Need a gift for a love one go to my web site and look at my custom turned ink pens. A portion of my profits goes to charitys in our local area and one poultry club The Panhandle Poutlry Club in Penscola Florida. Two shows one in March and December

 

http://bobspens.webs.com/

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Need a gift for a love one go to my web site and look at my custom turned ink pens. A portion of my profits goes to charitys in our local area and one poultry club The Panhandle Poutlry Club in Penscola Florida. Two shows one in March and December

 

http://bobspens.webs.com/

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post #4606 of 12298
3/11/12 at 12:08pm

Thanks again for the tips.  I am hoping to get atleast 60 chicks to be able to cull hard.  Is there any pictures of good 5 to 7 month old pullets and cockerels?  I just want to get a good idea of how a very good bird looks young when I'm picking what to keep.  I would then keep the best ones longer to see how they developed before picking breeders.  I know the Standard of Perfection has 18 month old birds in the pictures, and I'm assuming the outline you put up is an older bird.  Thanks again

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post #4607 of 12298
3/11/12 at 12:17pm



 

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Thanks again for the tips.  I am hoping to get atleast 60 chicks to be able to cull hard.  Is there any pictures of good 5 to 7 month old pullets and cockerels?  I just want to get a good idea of how a very good bird looks young when I'm picking what to keep.  I would then keep the best ones longer to see how they developed before picking breeders.  I know the Standard of Perfection has 18 month old birds in the pictures, and I'm assuming the outline you put up is an older bird.  Thanks again


Hope no one minds that I compliment Stse586's avatar.  I love Shutzhund and there is nothing better then a dog in protection that barks non stop umtil given a grip while doing a "BARK and HOLD".

GREAT PIC Stse586!! 
 

 

I have had chickens ONLY since May 2008.  I am NO EXPERT!  I raise German Sheps since 1989.  I raise chickens with a dog breeder's mentality.  I breed for traits.  And put them all together and call it a burd.
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I have had chickens ONLY since May 2008.  I am NO EXPERT!  I raise German Sheps since 1989.  I raise chickens with a dog breeder's mentality.  I breed for traits.  And put them all together and call it a burd.
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post #4608 of 12298
3/11/12 at 10:05pm

Hi,

 A small interruption, please. I just got my new SOP. Now I see why folks tout this book. Just stunning. Also picked upthe B&W illstrations. The Sussex one is so perfect. Really shows off the symmetry of the breed, esp. the head type in relation to the body type.

  I see some years are espeially noted for one breed or another

. Is there a particular year which was really good for Lght Sussex info and illustrations?
 Thanks!

 Karen in western PA


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post #4609 of 12298
3/11/12 at 10:17pm
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Hi,

 A small interruption, please. I just got my new SOP. Now I see why folks tout this book. Just stunning. Also picked upthe B&W illstrations. The Sussex one is so perfect. Really shows off the symmetry of the breed, esp. the head type in relation to the body type.  I see some years are espeially noted for one breed or another

. Is there a particular year which was really good for Lght Sussex info and illustrations?
 Thanks!

 Karen in western PA


where did you get your SOP book?

 

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post #4610 of 12298
3/12/12 at 5:39am
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where did you get your SOP book?

 



Thebest place to get it is directly from the APA. Here's the web address:  http://www.amerpoultryassn.com/

APA General Licensed Judge with 50 years experience raising and showing all manner of fowl.

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