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Originally Posted by mississippifarmboy View Post

Between meeting the girls, the hot rods and racing... I don't know how you find time for all those chickens or judging. Much less helping us newbies. lol

 

 

One thing I've been thinking about. I'll use myself as an example. It's been mentioned abut people buying birds, shipping them across the country  and entering them in shows. I guess I'm odd and old fashioned, but where is the honor in that? If I entered the adult birds I have now and won... What have I won exactly? I didn't choose the parents, I wasn't the breeder. I would just feel like I had bought good stock, not that I was doing anything right myself. The bragging rights in my mind would go to the breeder and then a bit to Junior for doing a good job growing them out for me.

 

Now once a few generations pass, with ME picking the birds to pair up, culling to improve the breed, raising them, getting them finished and ready for the show... Yeah, then I'LL feel like I'm doing something right if I place or win something.

 

Just wondered what your thoughts were on that?


It is done more than I would like to see. Most of the time the shipping box is right under the coop where anyone could see it. I don't see any joy in doing that, but I suppose it is an ego thing. The thing is everyone knows the bird was a bought bird. The world of exhibition poultry is really small when it comes to that kind of info. The joy for me is to get my birds so good that no one can buy a bird to beat me....I find they only try twice. those kind of people don't stay in the hobby long as a rule. There are some exceptions. If it makes your ego feel good and you don't need a sense of accomplishment.that is what they do. and...they don't even thank you in plblic. If I sell a bird to that type now and I have, they are going to pay me enough money that they can say anything they want about the bird and I would have maybe even given it to someone else.. I just won the Cali state fair best of show with a leghorn that I'm giving to a kid.

 

Walt

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Originally Posted by mississippifarmboy View Post

Between meeting the girls, the hot rods and racing... I don't know how you find time for all those chickens or judging. Much less helping us newbies. lol

 

 

One thing I've been thinking about. I'll use myself as an example. It's been mentioned abut people buying birds, shipping them across the country  and entering them in shows. I guess I'm odd and old fashioned, but where is the honor in that? If I entered the adult birds I have now and won... What have I won exactly? I didn't choose the parents, I wasn't the breeder. I would just feel like I had bought good stock, not that I was doing anything right myself. The bragging rights in my mind would go to the breeder and then a bit to Junior for doing a good job growing them out for me.

 

Now once a few generations pass, with ME picking the birds to pair up, culling to improve the breed, raising them, getting them finished and ready for the show... Yeah, then I'LL feel like I'm doing something right if I place or win something.

 

Just wondered what your thoughts were on that?

Funny, I was just thinking about this very subject the other day while I was sitting in my coop looking at all my bought birds. They need to be my birds before I start showing them.

 

Also, man I wish that there were some shows closer to us....I kick myself for not going to that one in FL a few months ago.

 

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It is done more than I would like to see. Most of the time the shipping box is right under the coop where anyone could see it. I don't see any joy in doing that, but I suppose it is an ego thing. The thing is everyone knows the bird was a bought bird. The world of exhibition poultry is really small when it comes to that kind of info. The joy for me is to get my birds so good that no one can buy a bird to beat me....I find they only try twice. those kind of people don't stay in the hobby long as a rule. There are some exceptions. If it makes your ego feel good and you don't need a sense of accomplishment.that is what they do. and...they don't even thank you in plblic. If I sell a bird to that type now and I have, they are going to pay me enough money that they can say anything they want about the bird and I would have maybe even given it to someone else.. I just won the Cali state fair best of show with a leghorn that I'm giving to a kid.

 

Walt

I've seen you say that before, just never made the connection to what you were saying.

 

I told you I miss the most obvious things. lol

 

Now I do understand. Thanks.

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Also, man I wish that there were some shows closer to us....I kick myself for not going to that one in FL a few months ago.

 

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Where are you located Chris? 

Covington La

 

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I have pictures from a friend to share. These 3 White Rocks were hatched in February.

 

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Where are you located Chris? 

Covington La

 

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Darn, was hoping you were closer. Could split the money and maybe make it to more shows traveling together. Mississippi has... zip.

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I have pictures from a friend to share. These 3 White Rocks were hatched in February.

 

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Wow! Everybody that knows me knows I'm not a fan of any kind of solid white chicken but.... Wow!

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I have pictures from a friend to share. These 3 White Rocks were hatched in February.

 

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Kathy, those are lovely. I avoid white birds because of insane aerial predation, but those are wonderful.

 

 

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That being said, I haven't been on the thread in months and months until just now...does anyone on here have a good idea of where I could get Partridge Chanteclers besides John Blehm? Are there any other LF breeders in the US who haven't gotten theirs from him? He and I agree that his line is SOOOOOOOOOOO broody. They are wonderfully affectionate, excellent foragers, great dressed out, and exceptional layers, but they want to brood twice a year at minimum.

http://redstagacres.webs.com/ This gentleman is in WI. I was tinkering with the idea of his Chantecler bantams for the past few years. The first time I saw them I was in amazement. He has very nice birds! That I will say! But the last thing I want to do is to get started with another breed.

Thank you- I'll take a look. I'm hoping they're from a totally different line, and I will be heading up to WI to visit family later this year. I'm a cheesehead by birth hide.gif

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ChooksChick.....i don't have an ax to grind with your projects, they are your birds and if what you do pleases you, continue doing it. I was responding to a post that suggested they be included in the APA SOP. I know it is not realistic to expect people will feel like I do about preserving heritage birds and most will experiment etc. Thats up to the individual. It is extremely difficult to get a new breed into the SOP.....even breeds that have been around for.. ..well centuries in some cases.

 

I think the main problem was that the post was in the Heritage Fowl thread and new breeds are not what we are about here. There are plenty of other threads where that would be appropriate. IO'm not going to go back and look, but i don't think you even posted it.

 

There is an old outdated website that you can check to see some of my birds and I have posted tons of pics on this site. I have 500 birds here at the moment.

 

Walt

 

I know you're fair, and I had to turn down the opportunity to take my Parti Chanties to try to get them back into the SOP a few years back...and I'm very familiar with your birds, too! I'm a stalker. I'll admit it.

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by mississippifarmboy View Post

I've seen you say that before, just never made the connection to what you were saying.

 

I told you I miss the most obvious things. lol

 

Now I do understand. Thanks.


I want it to be clear that lots of people beat me, but I dont like those kind of people to beat me  but it is also an opportunity to compete with a breeder who is on the other end of the US. Win or lose it is an opportunity. The exhibitor who would buy birds to show will soon find out that no one can win all the time ...then the real breeders kick it up a notch and go gunning for the bird buyer. Two years is  the usual lifespan of the high roller bird buyers. some of these birds go for obscene amounts, so showing a string can cost thousands of dollars.

 

I guess as long as you think that you miss obvious things....you will. I don't think you do. You can't expect to get the eye you are looking for as quickly as you would like, but I am sure you won't miss things that are pointed out. I even miss things and most of this is second nature to me. I'm judging the chickens in movies and commercials...the judge in me is on all the time when I see chickens...so because I saw it it doesn't mean that many overs saw it either. Everything is obvious when pointed out.

 

Walt

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