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Karen.......this is not the dog world........lol.

 

 You got that right, Walt. Poultry is much harder than the dog world. I find that out daily. I had thought the BOSS and silk were just part of regular show grooming like oil on the combs and legs and such. Guess I  need to re-think that too. Sometimes I wonder if I am ever going to land on a real answer instead of ones which keep needing re-examining because I am a newcomer.

 

Well, ok then, how does one breed gloss into feathers on white birds? I had thought "gloss" was part of "environment", at least on white birds.

Sigh.

 Karen


You are the first dog person to agree with me that poultry are difficult. Wow!!

 

Selective breeding will do that for you. Next time you see some white Rocks, Leghorns whatever in a show, you will be able to tell which ones have a natural gloss and which don't have a shine at all. More of a dull white. It is most evident in the male and the males hackle and saddle feathers, but can be seen in the females as well.

The environment is also a factor as you noted.... and to be fair we here in norcal are blessed with a climate that makes a lot of things easier. I get cool and sometimes damp weather even during summer mornings and evenings which helps with feather quality. In some areas of the US the weather is so hot it dries out the feathers and will sometimes even curl the feathers so that they somewhat resemble a frizzle. The don't look exactly like frizzles, but the feathers start to curl.

 

When do you get your birds?

 

Walt

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Boy I go to work and you guys have been burning up this thread that's good.

 

The answer to the question on the Master Buff Breeder if you would ask Tom Roebuck was his mentor Marcus Davidson. Heck If Ralph Brazelton was alive he would rate him as the best. He had every Buff color there was. Cochins, Leghorns, Rocks, Wyandotts , Minoricas, you name it he was Mr. Buff. I hope there is some others who studied under him when he was alive.

 

Tom Roebuck wrote a article on how to breed the Buff Rock and he hit the ball out of the park. It was a classic article and one that all buff folk's should have in their computer or note book.

 

If you want to put a finish on our birds and maybe even a white bird like my White Rocks give them five sunflower seeds for a bantam and ten for a large fowl and or give them some Alfalfa leaves to the birds two months be for the show. It gets into their gut then into their feather and the finish is something to behold. If you have a female that is dark like a Red let her go broody and after she molts back as a hen her finish will be even better. These are secrets from Ken Bowles told to me. But do not tell any one its a secret.

 

Point Chasers I love them. By a champion out of a shipping coop.. Cant breed them selves out of a wet paper bag.

 

Got to hung a duck and talk to Mr. Silkie. Got to run.

Need a gift for a love one go to my web site and look at my custom turned ink pens. A portion of my profits goes to charitys in our local area and one poultry club The Panhandle Poutlry Club in Penscola Florida. Two shows one in March and December

 

http://bobspens.webs.com/

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Need a gift for a love one go to my web site and look at my custom turned ink pens. A portion of my profits goes to charitys in our local area and one poultry club The Panhandle Poutlry Club in Penscola Florida. Two shows one in March and December

 

http://bobspens.webs.com/

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I get cool and sometimes damp weather even during summer mornings and evenings which helps with feather quality.

 

Hi Walt,

 Thank you. Hum, Maybe next summer I should put in a mist system to run in the mornings to imitate the morning mist. I lived in Norcal as a child and teenager. Most beautiful spot in the Nation. This is my 17th home and I still think so. We lived in Arden Park and in Cameron Park in the 50's and 60's.

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When do you get your birds?

 

 Really hoping to get Junior and his Junettes down here the 1st week of Sept. Hoping to get one or more of the trio to Southern OH in Oct. Time will tell on that.

Junior is looking just like his Dad at this point.

 Best Regards,

 Karen

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Walt


Edited by 3riverschick - 8/20/12 at 8:44pm
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Boy I go to work and you guys have been burning up this thread that's good.

 

The answer to the question on the Master Buff Breeder if you would ask Tom Roebuck was his mentor Marcus Davidson. Heck If Ralph Brazelton was alive he would rate him as the best. He had every Buff color there was. Cochins, Leghorns, Rocks, Wyandotts , Minoricas, you name it he was Mr. Buff. I hope there is some others who studied under him when he was alive.

 

Tom Roebuck wrote a article on how to breed the Buff Rock and he hit the ball out of the park. It was a classic article and one that all buff folk's should have in their computer or note book.

 

If you want to put a finish on our birds and maybe even a white bird like my White Rocks give them five sunflower seeds for a bantam and ten for a large fowl and or give them some Alfalfa leaves to the birds two months be for the show. It gets into their gut then into their feather and the finish is something to behold. If you have a female that is dark like a Red let her go broody and after she molts back as a hen her finish will be even better. These are secrets from Ken Bowles told to me. But do not tell any one its a secret.

 

Point Chasers I love them. By a champion out of a shipping coop.. Cant breed them selves out of a wet paper bag.

 

Got to hung a duck and talk to Mr. Silkie. Got to run.

Does going broody have something to do with her next molt?  I'm suspicious that this may be applicable to more than just buffs and reds?  Breeding of Andalusians, you have to breed a bit on the dark side.  They're not supposed to silver laced!  Anyway, sometimes they get pretty dark.  I've had them molt back closer to the standard and are stunning but it seems that if they are not a pullet or a cockerel, they don't get a second glance at the shows.  I don't breed for shows, though winning is really exciting!  I'm trying to do justice for my breed and make them all they can be. 

 

I'm just wondering about that comment.  What does going broody have to do with it?

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Originally Posted by Robert Blosl View Post

Boy I go to work and you guys have been burning up this thread that's good.

 

The answer to the question on the Master Buff Breeder if you would ask Tom Roebuck was his mentor Marcus Davidson. Heck If Ralph Brazelton was alive he would rate him as the best. He had every Buff color there was. Cochins, Leghorns, Rocks, Wyandotts , Minoricas, you name it he was Mr. Buff. I hope there is some others who studied under him when he was alive.

 

Tom Roebuck wrote a article on how to breed the Buff Rock and he hit the ball out of the park. It was a classic article and one that all buff folk's should have in their computer or note book.

 

If you want to put a finish on our birds and maybe even a white bird like my White Rocks give them five sunflower seeds for a bantam and ten for a large fowl and or give them some Alfalfa leaves to the birds two months be for the show. It gets into their gut then into their feather and the finish is something to behold. If you have a female that is dark like a Red let her go broody and after she molts back as a hen her finish will be even better. These are secrets from Ken Bowles told to me. But do not tell any one its a secret.

 

Point Chasers I love them. By a champion out of a shipping coop.. Cant breed them selves out of a wet paper bag.

 

Got to hung a duck and talk to Mr. Silkie. Got to run.

Does going broody have something to do with her next molt?  I'm suspicious that this may be applicable to more than just buffs and reds?  Breeding of Andalusians, you have to breed a bit on the dark side.  They're not supposed to silver laced!  Anyway, sometimes they get pretty dark.  I've had them molt back closer to the standard and are stunning but it seems that if they are not a pullet or a cockerel, they don't get a second glance at the shows.  I don't breed for shows, though winning is really exciting!  I'm trying to do justice for my breed and make them all they can be. 

 

I'm just wondering about that comment.  What does going broody have to do with it?

When a pigion goes broody she produces a milk hormone many feel that in a chicken that when she goes broody its her hormones that cause her to have a Oliy finish on her feathers after she molts as a hen. This is what Ken Bowles told me. I have two hens that are going through a molt and between the sun flower seeds they will get and that the broodiness will see latter.

Need a gift for a love one go to my web site and look at my custom turned ink pens. A portion of my profits goes to charitys in our local area and one poultry club The Panhandle Poutlry Club in Penscola Florida. Two shows one in March and December

 

http://bobspens.webs.com/

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Need a gift for a love one go to my web site and look at my custom turned ink pens. A portion of my profits goes to charitys in our local area and one poultry club The Panhandle Poutlry Club in Penscola Florida. Two shows one in March and December

 

http://bobspens.webs.com/

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When a pigion goes broody she produces a milk hormone many feel that in a chicken that when she goes broody its her hormones that cause her to have a Oliy finish on her feathers after she molts as a hen. This is what Ken Bowles told me. I have two hens that are going through a molt and between the sun flower seeds they will get and that the broodiness will see latter.


Well, that's very interesting.  I'll be watching the girls that went broody this year.  Several of them did.  Thanks Bob.

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I thought I would take a few photos of my grow-ups as well as a grown pullet that has decided she is the best mother ever. Not the best photo, but I am loving the legs and eye on this splash male. The cockerel to the right is a "project" towards the Modern Langshan and lacks any leg feathering. Both are the same age. The cage is about 16" approximately. Such slow growers, but definitely worth the wait.

 

 

Langshan female:

 

 

She was actually in show condition. Then went broody for 2 months.

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Breeder of: Show Quality Blue and Black Langshans in both Largefowl and Bantam!  


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post #5758 of 12280

Rodrigexpoultry, do you know of any good langshan breeders around TN? I would love to get my hands on a few hens!

Check out this page.

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Check out this page.

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rodriguez

 

I like that Splash, very nice.

 

Chris

 

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NPIP # 31-516
Society for the Preservation of Poultry Antiquities http://sppa.webs.com/

Breeding Large Fowl Single and Rose Comb Rhode Island Reds to APA Standard


"I know of no pursuit in which more real and important services can be rendered to any country than by improving its agriculture, its breed of useful animals, and other branches of a husbandman's cares." – 

George Washington

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15littlem,

 

I'll PM you some info.

 

Chris, thank you. He's the first splash male I've had! Very excited!
 

Breeder of: Show Quality Blue and Black Langshans in both Largefowl and Bantam!  


Check out my site! HERE! Or click the text above!

I am a WOMAN!!  Correction, THE woman!

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Breeder of: Show Quality Blue and Black Langshans in both Largefowl and Bantam!  


Check out my site! HERE! Or click the text above!

I am a WOMAN!!  Correction, THE woman!

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