Heritage Large Fowl Thread - Page 633

 If you can find someone to blow closed cell insulation in your coop, you'll never regret it. I sprayed my attic ROOF with it when I already had 18" of pink stuff overhead, and cut my heating and cooling billsby 1/3!!

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 I read that the first time with the word "roof" and pctured your  house frosted like a cake  Then realized the   of that.

  Karen 

Thank you for the responses regarding houses.

I went to a poultry exhibit this weekend where I met a Crevoceur for the first time, as well as Blue Andalusians, a S Sussex and several La Fleche.  Two of the La Fleche took ribbons.  There were more heritage breeds there than I anticipated but overall their quality was shockingly poor.  I don't understand showing a bird for judging while it is missing feathers or rough, or not large if they are supposed to be-- my Black non SOP Orp was bigger than the Buff being shown and the dark RIR were just scraggly and smaller than I expected.  The Blue Andalusian hen was bigger than the RIR cock.  Maybe I need to get out more but it was a surprise.  Examples: there was a Polish there whose crest was still 90% in the sheaths and Ameraucanas being shown that not only were not SOP colors but they had large combs!!  It was nice to meet the unusual breeds though.
 

I wonder what ever happened to the lady who wanted the Barred Rock large Fowl hens in message number one? Think she is still in poultry 633 pages later?

 Just curious,

 Karen

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Originally Posted by ashandvine 

Thank you for the responses regarding houses.

 

I went to a poultry exhibit this weekend where I met a Crevoceur for the first time, as well as Blue Andalusians, a S Sussex and several La Fleche.  Two of the La Fleche took ribbons.  There were more heritage breeds there than I anticipated but overall their quality was shockingly poor.  I don't understand showing a bird for judging while it is missing feathers or rough, or not large if they are supposed to be-- my Black non SOP Orp was bigger than the Buff being shown and the dark RIR were just scraggly and smaller than I expected.  The Blue Andalusian hen was bigger than the RIR cock.  Maybe I need to get out more but it was a surprise.  Examples: there was a Polish there whose crest was still 90% in the sheaths and Ameraucanas being shown that not only were not SOP colors but they had large combs!!  It was nice to meet the unusual breeds though.
 

 

 

I went to the Boston Poultry Show and saw a buff orpington nearly the size of a pony!  I didn't know at the time they were supposed to be this large. LOL  

 In horses, we have a standard, each horse is judged against this standard with points assigned. THen the horse with the most points takes the class. However, the point levels remain the same. For example, if none of the horses scored enough points to be a first premium, then the horse does not get first premium. It is still only second premium even if that is the best horse that day. In this system the points are posted publicly with verbal commentary from the head judge. Very educational.  

Maybe Fowlman can address this , or BOB.  Are the points the judge assigns posted somewhere? On the cards? Or only first, second, third?

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Originally Posted by Arielle 

I went to the Boston Poultry Show and saw a buff orpington nearly the size of a pony!  I didn't know at the time they were supposed to be this large. LOL  

 

 In horses, we have a standard, each horse is judged against this standard with points assigned. THen the horse with the most points takes the class. However, the point levels remain the same. For example, if none of the horses scored enough points to be a first premium, then the horse does not get first premium. It is still only second premium even if that is the best horse that day. In this system the points are posted publicly with verbal commentary from the head judge. Very educational.  

 

Maybe Fowlman can address this , or BOB.  Are the points the judge assigns posted somewhere? On the cards? Or only first, second, third?

maybe next time you could take a few pics for us Arielle..love tô tour the shows. the guys can explain the cards..long long  time ago they had cards with the breakdown of points..i dont know why they dont do that anymore...i kind of wondered that myself..saw a very old card from madison sq garden with head throu tail point breakdown...

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Originally Posted by aveca 

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Originally Posted by Arielle 

I went to the Boston Poultry Show and saw a buff orpington nearly the size of a pony!  I didn't know at the time they were supposed to be this large. LOL  

 

 In horses, we have a standard, each horse is judged against this standard with points assigned. THen the horse with the most points takes the class. However, the point levels remain the same. For example, if none of the horses scored enough points to be a first premium, then the horse does not get first premium. It is still only second premium even if that is the best horse that day. In this system the points are posted publicly with verbal commentary from the head judge. Very educational.  

 

Maybe Fowlman can address this , or BOB.  Are the points the judge assigns posted somewhere? On the cards? Or only first, second, third?

maybe next time you could take a few pics for us Arielle..love tô tour the shows. the guys can explain the cards..long long  time ago they had cards with the breakdown of points..i dont know why they dont do that anymore...i kind of wondered that myself..saw a very old card from madison sq garden with head throu tail point breakdown...

Yes, owners of the horses get the point by point break down; at the time of the eval uation, the horses are put in rind order and the head judge points out  the very good things and the very poor things, and we write like mad in our catalogs. lol  I think this method has contributed to this breed registry becoming one of the best performance horses in the world. I can't help but think it could have the same effect for poultry. ( SO many of us, including me, has a lot to learn.) 

yeah, but poultry are flock creatures who only usually live about 5years, maybe less. That's kinda hard to pedigree.

 Karen

ashandvine wrote:

I went to the Boston Poultry Show ...

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Click,

I wanna go too! Never been to a huge poultry show!

Karen 

                         Bob Blosi and/or Walt Leonard

 Found this while surfing for  Light Brahma info. Interesting stuff. 

The Light Brahma esp. is all about 'breeding to feather'. Same as we

do for Light Sussex. What I don't know is the esteem with which

the author is held in the poultry world. Please, can you speak to that?

Thanks!

 Karen

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http://tinyurl.com/8gwtvd4

These are booklets from the latter 1880's.

                The Breeding Papers of H.H.Stoddard:

1. The White Leghorn - from Shell to the Exhibition Room
2. The Light Brahma - From Shell to the Exhibition Room
3. The Brown Leghorns -  How to Mate, Rear, and Judge Them
4. The Plymouth Rocks - How to Mate, Rear, and Judge Them
5. The Wyandottes, For the Fancier abd for General Use
6. How to Preserve Eggs (for culinary purposes)
7. How To Win Poultry Prizes (includes indivdual breeds)
8. The Book of the Dorking, A Brief Monograph -  Upon the
Origin, Varieties, Breeding and Management
of the Dorking Fowl
9. The Book of the Bantams, A Brief Treatise Upon the Several Varieties

10. The Book of the Games , A Brief Treatise Upon the  Mating, Rearing and
 Management of the Different Varieties of Games
11. The Book of the Hamburgs, A Brief Treatise Upon the  Mating, Rearing and
 Management of the Different Varieties of Hamburgs
12. Poultry Diseases ; Methods of Preventign and Curing them
 ( Obsolete info, for historical research only, we have much better cures now)