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post #71 of 12288
9/20/10 at 6:38pm
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Originally Posted by kathyinmo 

Love your pictures, Chris.  I was wondering something about the reds .... I notice it in your last picture too .... the tail on the girls... why is it that some carry their tails higher and some let them droop. Is there anything to this? hu


The one on the left is the "Shy" one and see just let her tail drop..
You do have to watch there is a lot of hen that don't have the correct tail angle (10°) and are a bit flat. I do cull hens that don't show correct tail angle and can say that I get one or two a season that I have to call for bad tails..
I might have a better picture of her on a disk if so Ill post it..

Chris

 

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post #72 of 12288
9/20/10 at 6:51pm
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Originally Posted by joletabey 

And may I add a question about the differences between the single comb and rose comb?  The single comb seems to be a thicker, chunkier bird-  is that a recognized difference between the two, or is it just these two birds?


Technically the only difference between the two should be the comb.

I will say that the single comb Reds do tend to be bigger in size than a rose comb but I have been improve over all size of my line of rose combs over the years.   

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post #73 of 12288
9/20/10 at 8:54pm
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Originally Posted by joletabey 

It's stunning, it truly is.  I think if more people saw those, they wouldn't settle for the hatchery types. Ever.


If more people saw good specimens, the hatcheries would have a hard time selling junk.

http://www.rosecomb.com/fowlman/
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post #74 of 12288
9/20/10 at 10:00pm
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Originally Posted by fowlman01 
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Originally Posted by joletabey 

It's stunning, it truly is.  I think if more people saw those, they wouldn't settle for the hatchery types. Ever.


If more people saw good specimens, the hatcheries would have a hard time selling junk.


That is EXACTLY what I was thinking! I had NO idea! I know others would feel the same, if they just knew.

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post #75 of 12288
9/20/10 at 10:05pm

One of the biggest problems I have with trying to breed the heritage birds is that so few people "get" that there is a difference.  I dont think many understand that if we leave many of these breeds to the large hatcheries we will soon be without heritage breeds.  "

Thanks Bob you can help the heritage breeds a lot with commentary on this site.  There are others on this forum that fight the good fight, Nyreds, Chris 09, and many others.

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post #76 of 12288
9/20/10 at 10:20pm
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Hi Got home its midnight had a good night at work and got in the truck and have a empty tank and the light is on. Had to drive five mile do east to a all night conveient store. They are open but the pump would not take my card. Went inside got twenty dollars worth of gas and off now for two days. Got many emails to my home and personel messages from so many of you. I got a personel mesage from my good Rhode Island Red friend from New York. He has been breeding Dominuques for a few years and went to a show with some pullets and one of pullets won Reserve Champion American. What a win for him and the breed. Many old timers said they have never seen a Dominique bird. I have never heard of a Dominique ever getting on Champion row and she beat out a very good large fowl Rhode Island Red Cockerel. I bet that breeder was shocked to be beaten by a old time little black and white chicken. It has me excitted that I may want to get some of these old birds and raise them. They dont take up much room as they are between a bantam and a large fowl for size and they are very very rare.
Look forward to your emails and personel emails and all of you that thanked me for having the vision to set up this tread you are welcome. But I have to give credit to Frank Reese from Good Shepard Ranch for emailing me and wanting to talk to me on the phone about these old breeds and asking me to help him spread the word. He got me thinking and I thought this would be a great web site to spread the Gospel. Going to bed off tomorrow. Got to take pictures of the ducks and bantams and order some leg bands. bob

Need a gift for a love one go to my web site and look at my custom turned ink pens. A portion of my profits goes to charitys in our local area and one poultry club The Panhandle Poutlry Club in Penscola Florida. Two shows one in March and December

 

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Need a gift for a love one go to my web site and look at my custom turned ink pens. A portion of my profits goes to charitys in our local area and one poultry club The Panhandle Poutlry Club in Penscola Florida. Two shows one in March and December

 

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post #77 of 12288
9/20/10 at 10:42pm
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Originally Posted by Robert Blosl 

Look forward to your emails and personel emails and all of you that thanked me for having the vision to set up this tread you are welcome. But I have to give credit to Frank Reese from Good Shepard Ranch for emailing me and wanting to talk to me on the phone about these old breeds and asking me to help him spread the word. He got me thinking and I thought this would be a great web site to spread the Gospel.  bob


How do we obtain stock from Frank or others with true Heritage stock? Where is it?

 

 

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post #78 of 12288
9/20/10 at 10:53pm
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http://www.goodshepherdpoultryranch.com/

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/katz0556/Mike1-1.jpg
Here is Franks web site. I dont know how easy it is to get birds from Frank. He can not let folks on to his ranch to site see and buy birds for biosecurity reasons. He is going to the big chicken APA convention in Shawnee Oklahoma and said he can bring birds to sell but can not show them or bring them back to his farm. One way to get a good start. Also, there are a few people who have went though the pains to get Franks blood lines and they may be willing to share birds with you. We will have to search out and locate these people and see if they will sell eggs, chicks or adult birds to you.

When you go to Tim Bowles farm and get a large fowl Rhode Island Red Single Comb male look and see if you can find a guy like this bird. I was told there where three like this male last year. One of the finest large fowl males I have seen in Ten years. This is the real McCoy Heartage Rhode Island Red and when you all ask me for a picture of the standard of perfection  Rhode Island Red I am going to email you this pictutre. He has it all. bob

Need a gift for a love one go to my web site and look at my custom turned ink pens. A portion of my profits goes to charitys in our local area and one poultry club The Panhandle Poutlry Club in Penscola Florida. Two shows one in March and December

 

http://bobspens.webs.com/

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Need a gift for a love one go to my web site and look at my custom turned ink pens. A portion of my profits goes to charitys in our local area and one poultry club The Panhandle Poutlry Club in Penscola Florida. Two shows one in March and December

 

http://bobspens.webs.com/

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post #79 of 12288
9/20/10 at 11:01pm

Oh wow, I am only about 4 hours from Shawnee, OK.  I could go there! When is this? If Frank would bring some of his stock, I am sure there are others interested as well.  By the way, besides his original Barred Rocks, what other Heritage breeds does Frank have that may be available? All along I thought he "specialized," in turkeys.


OK, I found it.  Dec 11-12, 2010.

http://www.apa-arkansas.com/images/OSPF/OSPF_2010Catalogue09-13-10.PDF


Edited by kathyinmo - 9/21/10 at 12:08am
 

 

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post #80 of 12288
9/21/10 at 3:41am

Bob, do you have any source for Delawares?

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