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post #1661 of 3856
9/9/12 at 9:43am
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Live birds are always better than eggs. Eggs that you can pickup from breeder would be better than shipped. But if you understand the risk and there is a particular strain you want, shipped eggs can be a option. I have shipped eggs all over the country, with some very good results (85%) and some ok results (20%).


I am partial to the Mohawk line but I do like the other lines as well. I am in a situation where I can not have multiple lines and keep them separate, and since I have learned from this thread that lines should not be mixed, I have decided to get what ever TRUE line I can get as a start, concentrate on that line, and just take it from there.

 

The ones I have now I hatched from eggs that I got locally. The parent stock were hatched from that same line that you had started with, if memory serves me right. While there are a couple that look pretty good, after reading all of the pages on this thread, and re-reading it several times, I know this is not the line that I am so wanting to raise and breed.

 

In the meantime I will just keep reading everything I can so that I am as prepared as I can be when I do get my flock started.

What line do you have? Don Nelson, Moahawk or Radamaker from Minn.

 

It is true dont cross strains why put yourself behind for five years then fail. It is better to get one of the top three lines then stick with them then in five to ten years if you think you need new blood get you a good bird from a person who has the same strain as you have. Makes more sense to me. Two many people have done the other way and they are no longer in chickens or Reds. Why be like them. bob

Need a gift for a love one go to my web site and look at my custom turned ink pens. A portion of my profits goes to charitys in our local area and one poultry club The Panhandle Poutlry Club in Penscola Florida. Two shows one in March and December

 

http://bobspens.webs.com/

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post #1662 of 3856
9/9/12 at 10:44am
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Originally Posted by Robert Blosl View Post

What line do you have? Don Nelson, Moahawk or Radamaker from Minn.

 

It is true dont cross strains why put yourself behind for five years then fail. It is better to get one of the top three lines then stick with them then in five to ten years if you think you need new blood get you a good bird from a person who has the same strain as you have. Makes more sense to me. Two many people have done the other way and they are no longer in chickens or Reds. Why be like them. bob


Oh man, I so wish I had Mohawk or Nelson lines but unfortunately the parent stock to the ones I have came from the Ryan line. I will get, some way, some how, some day, a quality line to work with. The problem I have in finding quality RIR around here is that most people are just interested in egg producers or fancy breeds.

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post #1663 of 3856
9/9/12 at 6:49pm
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I am partial to the Mohawk line but I do like the other lines as well. I am in a situation where I can not have multiple lines and keep them separate, and since I have learned from this thread that lines should not be mixed, I have decided to get what ever TRUE line I can get as a start, concentrate on that line, and just take it from there.

 

The ones I have now I hatched from eggs that I got locally. The parent stock were hatched from that same line that you had started with, if memory serves me right. While there are a couple that look pretty good, after reading all of the pages on this thread, and re-reading it several times, I know this is not the line that I am so wanting to raise and breed.

 

In the meantime I will just keep reading everything I can so that I am as prepared as I can be when I do get my flock started.

I was not suggesting the line I have or any other line, just some options to get started with Heritage Reds. Yes I did have the Ryan line, but they have been replaced long ago. In my quest for Heirloom Reds I got to hasty and started wrong the first time It did not take long to figure it out.

It took research but I eventually got on the right path. I am very proud of my Bates line and happy to be working on preserving this line.

 

 

Looks like there should be plenty of Mohawks and Nelson chicks this coming spring within driving distance of Florida, to get you started on the enjoyment of Real Rhode Island Reds. Once you have them nothing compares.

 

 

Ron Fogle


Edited by FOGELLY - 9/10/12 at 4:29am
Home of non Hatchery "Heritage"
Rhode Island Reds
Columbian Plymouth Rocks
Plymouth Barred Rocks.
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Home of non Hatchery "Heritage"
Rhode Island Reds
Columbian Plymouth Rocks
Plymouth Barred Rocks.
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post #1664 of 3856
9/9/12 at 7:06pm
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I was not suggesting my line or any other line, just some options to get started with Heritage Reds. Yes I did have the Ryan line, but they have been replaced long ago. In my quest for Heirloom Reds I got to hasty and started wrong the first time It did not take long to figure it out.

It took research but I eventually got on the right path. I am very proud of my Bates line and happy to be working on preserving this line.

 

 

Looks like there should be plenty of Mohawks and Nelson chicks this coming spring within driving distance of Florida, to get you started on the enjoyment of Real Rhode Island Reds. Once you have them nothing compares.

 

 

Ron Fogle


I got hasty as well but the info that I have gotten from this thread has gotten me on the right path, for that I am most grateful, as I am sure are many other beginners.

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post #1665 of 3856
9/9/12 at 7:23pm
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The Ryan line does not ring a bell into my memory bank of data. I know all the top lines in the past fifty years and this one does not rate.

 

LIke they stated there will be folks sharing the Moahwaks and Nelson line this sping. You could get five to ten two week old started chicks and that is all you need. I started with two old hens and a pullets and three sons from one six year old hen. My first year I had 40 nice chicks the next year I had 60.

 

You only need a good pair or trio to get started but get good ones first that are not want a be Rhode Island Reds. So simple do your home work first, pick a good breeder and then get your little chicks. Dont ask a good breeder for eggs.

 

Big turn off he knows you are a back yard chicken collector when he hears from you and he will most likely not talk to you or want to help you.

 

Eggs shiped by the post office normaly do not hatch worth a flip.

 

Many of us do not have many breeders as we can not afford to keep them with feed at $18 a sack. So we keep only the top females not many and hatch the chicks and share them with beginners. If we want to be like a hatchery we can have three males and 15 to 20 females flock mate them sell you eggs at $3. each and dont care if they hatch or not.

 

Hope you get some some day. There are many good Reds in the South East today.

Need a gift for a love one go to my web site and look at my custom turned ink pens. A portion of my profits goes to charitys in our local area and one poultry club The Panhandle Poutlry Club in Penscola Florida. Two shows one in March and December

 

http://bobspens.webs.com/

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Need a gift for a love one go to my web site and look at my custom turned ink pens. A portion of my profits goes to charitys in our local area and one poultry club The Panhandle Poutlry Club in Penscola Florida. Two shows one in March and December

 

http://bobspens.webs.com/

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post #1666 of 3856
9/9/12 at 7:48pm

I have read on here some people being able to get RIR at the shows. We have the Lake City show coming up in January, I believe. Do you think that is a possibility I should check out? Lake City is about an hour from where I live.

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post #1667 of 3856
9/9/12 at 7:52pm

Yes you should check it out.There will be lots of largefowl there.

Mohawk/Reece standard RIR's,Roberts line standard RIR's German and American standard New Hampshires

standard White Wyandottes.     Chicks,young birds and maybe a few eggs for sale.

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Mohawk/Reece standard RIR's,Roberts line standard RIR's German and American standard New Hampshires

standard White Wyandottes.     Chicks,young birds and maybe a few eggs for sale.

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post #1668 of 3856
9/10/12 at 8:55am
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I am partial to the Mohawk line but I do like the other lines as well. I am in a situation where I can not have multiple lines and keep them separate, and since I have learned from this thread that lines should not be mixed, I have decided to get what ever TRUE line I can get as a start, concentrate on that line, and just take it from there.

 

The ones I have now I hatched from eggs that I got locally. The parent stock were hatched from that same line that you had started with, if memory serves me right. While there are a couple that look pretty good, after reading all of the pages on this thread, and re-reading it several times, I know this is not the line that I am so wanting to raise and breed.

 

In the meantime I will just keep reading everything I can so that I am as prepared as I can be when I do get my flock started.

I was not suggesting the line I have or any other line, just some options to get started with Heritage Reds. Yes I did have the Ryan line, but they have been replaced long ago. In my quest for Heirloom Reds I got to hasty and started wrong the first time It did not take long to figure it out.

It took research but I eventually got on the right path. I am very proud of my Bates line and happy to be working on preserving this line.

 

 

Looks like there should be plenty of Mohawks and Nelson chicks this coming spring within driving distance of Florida, to get you started on the enjoyment of Real Rhode Island Reds. Once you have them nothing compares.

 

 

Ron Fogle

 

What line/lines did Ricky Bates get his from?

 

What ever happened to the Choctaw line that some were bragging about last year?

 

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I will be on/off BYC. If we owe you hatching eggs, please forward us the listing information. We are almost caught up on them and do not wish to miss anyone. Geese are now laying!

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post #1669 of 3856
9/10/12 at 10:01am
Jim, there are several post on this thread made by Bob on the origins of Ricky's birds.
I will see if can find them and give you the page number.

The "Choctaw" line is what Roy Autrey calls his Reds. I have not heard much about them for awhile. Acutally before Roy started touting them I had never heard of this line. There are several people that I know that got some from him, but they no longer have them.

Roy bought some cockerels from Ricky a few years ago, because he said he had lost all of his breeders.
Also he may have got some birds from a breeder in Texas around that same time.
Roy's granddaughter did very well showing the birds he got from Ricky.

Ron
Edited by FOGELLY - 9/10/12 at 10:19am
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Plymouth Barred Rocks.
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Plymouth Barred Rocks.
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post #1670 of 3856
9/10/12 at 4:39pm
Ok, hello awesome HRIR breeders. Long time no talk. I've been busy working on a coop and trying to find suitible fates for my Nankin culls (still a work in progress). I haven't been hanging out much here because last I gathered my only shot at getting some birds would be the Clanton, AL show in October. Well, Oct is just around the corner and I have not been able to gather any information. Couldn't make contact with the breeder who was supposed to be attending, and really can't find any info on the show itself. Not on BYC or the local papers or internet resources. I REALLY want to get involved with working with heritage breeds, but an getting a bit discouraged. Is there any one, anywhere reasonably close to East-Central Alabama who will be culling their flock soon who would be interested in helping me out?

Tyler

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