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I tried to put them on backyard thread but was having problems doing it. any way here he is. i`m still new to showing and breeding poultry. give me your honest opinion of him and let me know if there are good features of him and his bad ones.

 

 

His message to me above :

 

A friend from this thread Wayne asked me to upload his pictures of his two year old R I Reds Male  for him for us to look at. These are for sure true Standard Rhode Island Reds and the bottom picture show the nice top line extended keel the nice green beetle green tail color. His eye color is what is called Red Bay for you who worry about eye color. On birds that are dark like this guy they normaly are always on the money for color. He has nice horn leg color. He sent me several pictures these I thought would give you a idea what he has. Also look at his wing color not just the black but some part of the wing a lot of people forget about the red in the wing. Mrs. Donaldson use to say you want the red wing color to match the hock or side of the bird or a nice rich red color. He has this in this picture. Considering his age, the cold conditions I think you got a nice bird here and this is what a two year old male should look like. He kept his youthful shape and he should pass this on to his chicks.

 

It was not long ago I could not post pictures very well on this thread. It proves you can learn anything you set your mind to if you have the will to try and do it. The same happens in breeding and raising Rhode Island Reds. Where there is a Will there is a WAY.

 

Look forward to your comments? What family line did you get your Reds From.? bob


Edited by Robert Blosl - 3/26/13 at 11:43am
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thanks robert for getting these pictures up here for me. i have pictures of the hens also. i'll attemp to get them on here tonight "fingers crossed". I would like to buy another line of rhode island reds so I can start up with a few to breed with. Anyone have any recommendations for my second line that will work with this guy.

 

All she had for me for info on this cock was that she got him from a breeder in ontario who was retiring from showing and that this cock's father came from a breeder in rhode island.

 

i'm glad to hear that my 12 hour, 641 mile drive was not a waste of time to bring them to my place.
 

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I'm glad too that Jim shed some light on that subject also. I don't have any other RIR strains to compare them to, but I will tell you I am quite impressed with my Horstman RIR girls and their egg-laying abilities so far. They lay very regular and started out laying big eggs as Ron had mentioned his reds did also, and too, the docile nature is just awesome. I did not get to handle these from day one(imprint them) they were reared to about 3/4 weeks of age by another person and then sent to me but they are so easy going and laid back its amazing. Good sized and not too shabby looking either. I don't think they would win the beauty pageants at the shows but they are for sure as good as ever, for what I wanted, good old fashioned and nice looking barnyard fowl.

Go Reds, LOL

Jeff
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Thanks for commenting on your Horstman rir hens, since this is the line I have. Would love to see some pics for comparison. Mine are not for show, but still want great birds. These are the first heritage chickens I ever saw and they blew me away. Still learning all I can but am hoping to continue this line long term.


Oh I don't have pics and believe me they aren't very photogenic now as they have been in pen with a couple of very Randy young cockerels and they look the" worse for wear part" but they lay outstanding and I set eggs from them yesterday and will set todays laying in there too. These will by my line now this is my first go around choosing and mating up from the Horstman bunch. We shall see how I am at selecting RIR breederes here soon fl.gif LOL

 

Jeff


Edited by catdaddyfro - 3/26/13 at 1:05pm
You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, you can make a purse out of it, but it won't be silk. LOL
 
Maybe in about another 30-40 years I'll get this "being an expert" thing figured out by then. LOL
 
Still trying to practice Granny's advice 'if you don't have anything nice to say then keep it to yourself' LOL been at it for 45 years still don't have it down pat yet!
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You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, you can make a purse out of it, but it won't be silk. LOL
 
Maybe in about another 30-40 years I'll get this "being an expert" thing figured out by then. LOL
 
Still trying to practice Granny's advice 'if you don't have anything nice to say then keep it to yourself' LOL been at it for 45 years still don't have it down pat yet!
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Someone just sent me this and I just couldn't resist. ha,ha,ha.  I was going to name them but thought better. lol 

Thank You Jesus, Just for being YOU !!!!!!!!!!

http://jimspetsandpoultry.weebly.com

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Thank You Jesus, Just for being YOU !!!!!!!!!!

http://jimspetsandpoultry.weebly.com

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The Don Nelson Line would be my choice to cross onto this male. He looks like a Nelson type bird. If you  think you have a few faults with him just think if you cross my old line on him or say the Minnesota line on him. You would be culling for five years. Keep it simple stick with A Nelson line and purchase from New York Reds or Bobby or something like that.

 

Heck I bet when we see your females there is no reason to cross anything on them. Just pick a couple of top females mate to him if he is the sire and take a good cockerel and mate him to one or two or the best hens. Have to families and just have a wonderful time next year. That's what I would do and don't make things more difficult  than they already are with type and color. bob

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I am new to chickens and bought hatchery reds not knowing there was a difference, I had only seen RIRs were a breed propagating. I am glad I found this thread and special thanks to JamesA, Bob, and sgribble for the help with finding birds.
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ok thanks robert. i'll stay with the nelson line. like i said i'm definatly a newbie to this.

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http://books.google.com/books?id=RB1DAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA4-PA55&dq=importance+of+feather+quality+poultry&hl=en&sa=X&ei=hqlQUceYBZbJ4AP_soGQAw&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=importance%20of%20feather%20quality%20poultry&f=false

 

http://books.google.com/books?id=RB1DAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA4-PA55&dq=importance+of+feather+quality+poultry&hl=en&sa=X&ei=hqlQUceYBZbJ4AP_soGQAw&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=importance%20of%20feather%20quality%20poultry&f=false

 

 

Steve this might be the best booklet I ever read on R I Reds. It was produced by Ernie Jones with the assistance of Art Schilling. The words about feather quality that he talked about changed the faddism of dark feathers and stringy feathers. They believed that they could not produce a dark R I Red unless it had stringing birds. We proved them wrong as if you look today we have the color and the correct webbing on our Reds.

 

Save this site as a favorite and or print it out and read it often. bob

 

 

Steve look down in the book on the pictures that Schilling posted and look at A and B large fowl male that Lester Tompkins used to develop their line.

 

Maybe the good male that we have seen win in the past three months his long tail is a trait from these old birds. The last bird Mrs. Donaldson  got in 1954 was from Harold Tompkins and maybe this weird tail that popped out of no where is from a old bird like this. I still think this can be breed out if you find the right females to compensate the mating. We shall see. bob


Edited by Robert Blosl - 3/26/13 at 4:19pm
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I only have 3 pullets/hens and 1 cockerel of the Horstman RC's. These two pics were taken in Jan so these would have been 9 months old at that time. They were hatched Apr 2012. 
These are very nice birds, they have nice color, size and disposition. 






Thanks for the great pics smile.png I have eggs in my incubator right now from dick horstman and one chick who just hatched earlier today. I'm on day 20, can't wait to see these beauties grow up. Happy to hear they have a good disposition too, that's something I was concerned with. Dick did let me know they have good dispositions from the get go though.

~Kelly

 

Isaiah 41:10 - fear not, for I am with you; be not dismayed, for I am your God; I will strengthen you, I will help you, I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.

 

Chickens: HRIR's and silkies & hopefully some BBS Cochins.

 

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~Kelly

 

Isaiah 41:10 - fear not, for I am with you; be not dismayed, for I am your God; I will strengthen you, I will help you, I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.

 

Chickens: HRIR's and silkies & hopefully some BBS Cochins.

 

http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/569950/incubators-anonymous

Where Hatch-a-holics can receive the help ;o)

(Come Join!)

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I am new to chickens and bought hatchery reds not knowing there was a difference, I had only seen RIRs were a breed propagating. I am glad I found this thread and special thanks to JamesA, Bob, and sgribble for the help with finding birds.

You are welcome and I should be able to get you a few birds before long.

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Mohawk/Reece standard RIR's,Roberts line standard RIR's, German and American standard New Hampshires.  Chicks,young birds and maybe a few eggs for sale.

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Mohawk/Reece standard RIR's,Roberts line standard RIR's, German and American standard New Hampshires.  Chicks,young birds and maybe a few eggs for sale.

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