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The Red Barred one that I said I hatched looked a lot like the one in catdaddy's avatar.  May just a tad darker red than that one but that is pretty much what he looked like.  But yep, I have hatched BR X RIR and BR X SS and some of them were hard to tell from a pure barred rock, other than the roos, the roos are dark barred like barred rock hens so pure Barred rock roosters would be lighter should be easier to tell apart from the crosses.

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post #12 of 26
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Originally Posted by Cowgirl71 

Hmmmm....  I was wondering if I were to put a BR roo in with RIR, BO, and BR hens and hatched those eggs, if I could tell who's who when the pullets mature.  I can't tell from your pic catdaddy, does the hen have yellow legs or white?  Could it maybe be true that the BO crosses would have white legs and the RIR crosses would have yellow legs, or no?  But then RAREROO said that some of the Xs can look like purebred BRs, so I don't know...  A red barred bird sounds beautiful!

It IS so hard to get good pics of chickens.  To save myself a lot of frustration, I automatically put my camera on the "blur reduction" setting, LOL.  Chickens are always moving some part of their body...

ETA:  Catdaddy, what kind of roo is that in your avatar?  He's beautiful!


He's not mine I borrowed his pic from someone else hear on the thread can't remember whom but I think I got permission though. I did have a Red(buff) barred I hatched out a couple of years ago but I gave him to my mom, because he was so pretty, moms get the best you know, but some sort a critter got him and all but one of her chickens figured most prolly d...md 'coons'. Anyhow I've been trying for another for the past couple of hatching seasons no luck yet that's how I end up with the halfbreed gals great layers though. I'll keep trying. Next time I'm going to try a BSL male for the roo I think that's what tadkerson said would more likely give the Red or buff barred pattern when crossed onto a Black-tailed red (red columbian), RIR,NH or Prod. red. I still think that the mother of my red barred was a RSL hen (black tailed not white tailed) but Tim said most prolly not so, all I know is I've hatched them before male and female and I'm gonna keep on till I do it again as they are my favorite colored chicken. You can see a beautiful dark red barred roo on tadkersons website check it out.

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You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, you can make a purse out of it, but it won't be silk. LOL
 
Maybe in about another 30-40 years I'll get this "being an expert" thing figured out by then. LOL
 
Still trying to practice Granny's advice 'if you don't have anything nice to say then keep it to yourself' LOL been at it for 45 years still don't have it down pat yet!
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post #13 of 26
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Originally Posted by catdaddyfro 
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Originally Posted by Cowgirl71 

Hmmmm....  I was wondering if I were to put a BR roo in with RIR, BO, and BR hens and hatched those eggs, if I could tell who's who when the pullets mature.  I can't tell from your pic catdaddy, does the hen have yellow legs or white?  Could it maybe be true that the BO crosses would have white legs and the RIR crosses would have yellow legs, or no?  But then RAREROO said that some of the Xs can look like purebred BRs, so I don't know...  A red barred bird sounds beautiful!

It IS so hard to get good pics of chickens.  To save myself a lot of frustration, I automatically put my camera on the "blur reduction" setting, LOL.  Chickens are always moving some part of their body...

ETA:  Catdaddy, what kind of roo is that in your avatar?  He's beautiful!


He's not mine I borrowed his pic from someone else hear on the thread can't remember whom but I think I got permission though. I did have a Red(buff) barred I hatched out a couple of years ago but I gave him to my mom, because he was so pretty, moms get the best you know, but some sort a critter got him and all but one of her chickens figured most prolly d...md 'coons'. Anyhow I've been trying for another for the past couple of hatching seasons no luck yet that's how I end up with the halfbreed gals great layers though. I'll keep trying. Next time I'm going to try a BSL male for the roo I think that's what tadkerson said would more likely give the Red or buff barred pattern when crossed onto a Black-tailed red (red columbian), RIR,NH or Prod. red. I still think that the mother of my red barred was a RSL hen (black tailed not white tailed) but Tim said most prolly not so, all I know is I've hatched them before male and female and I'm gonna keep on till I do it again as they are my favorite colored chicken. You can see a beautiful dark red barred roo on tadkersons website check it out.

Sorry for hyjacking but its relative I believe,  catdaddy lol


I've seen Tim's pic of his barred RIR...  He's BEAUTIFUL!!! tongue

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post #14 of 26

Here's some pics I posted not to long ago. Now my roo is not full RIR he is mixed with some kind of bantam that has blue/silver in it.
But all my hens at the time were Barred Rocks!

http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=414831


Edited by Barred Babies - 11/16/10 at 5:16am

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Great hubby, 2 kids, 3 furry babies, lots of chickens!!

Blue, Black & Splash Marans. Blue Slate, Narragansett, & Rio Grand Turkeys, 

Guineas & Bob White Quail! NPIP Certified #851

 

 

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post #15 of 26

I have BR/RIR eggs in the incubator right now. I am curious to see what they look like. I am wondering if my BR roo is pure though I dont think he is. I have 2 and the one thats mating looks different than the other they came from the same farm but different batch of hatching eggs that the woman had bought from a farmer. The reason I think he may not be pure is that he is darker than the other and he has green in his tail feathers and some gold leaking in his hackles. The other looks like a typical BR roo. So anyway I have 4 eggs in there due to Hatch Thanksgiving day. all are developing great so I will be truly thankful if they all hatch. smile

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post #16 of 26

Just for fun I ran BSL and RSL (with barring, like with a Dealware hen) roosters over a red hen through Henk's calculator.  The odds with both of getting a red barred pullet was 1 in 16 chicks or 1 in 8 of the pullets.  I thought the RSL odds would be higher, but it was not.

Editted to add:  I also ran a barred rooster over a red hen, then took the rooster from that cross and crossed with a red hen.  Odds were the same as above.


Edited by Ridgerunner - 11/16/10 at 9:13am

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The spirit of liberty is the spirit which is not too sure that it is right.....Judge Learned Hand  (The more sure your are that your way is the only right way, the more likely you are wrong.)

 

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post #17 of 26
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Originally Posted by Ridgerunner 

Just for fun I ran BSL and RSL (with barring, like with a Dealware hen) roosters over a red hen through Henk's calculator.  The odds with both of getting a red barred pullet was 1 in 16 chicks or 1 in 8 of the pullets.  I thought the RSL odds would be higher, but it was not.

Editted to add:  I also ran a barred rooster over a red hen, then took the rooster from that cross and crossed with a red hen.  Odds were the same as above.


I was wondering about the BSL roo x RSL(black-tailed) hen, do you think the odds are the same as BSLxred columbian. Try it and post back I'm not so good on the calculator yet I need to do a lot more studying on it someday. hu  scratching head::: lol

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PS Ill try to locate the thread where Tim and I discused the buff barred cross last year when I get some more time maybe tonite. Gotta go work on a tractor(not a chicken tractor either) a big tractor for the rest of the day. barnie

Iwent on ahead and found the thead just in case I forgot later(happens frequently). Boy talk about blow your dress tail up over your head, does mine and I don't even wear a dress hmm. Very interesting info here to digest if you have an iron stomach that is otherwise might cause an ulcer sickbychttp://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=275420


Edited by catdaddyfro - 11/16/10 at 11:07am
You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, you can make a purse out of it, but it won't be silk. LOL
 
Maybe in about another 30-40 years I'll get this "being an expert" thing figured out by then. LOL
 
Still trying to practice Granny's advice 'if you don't have anything nice to say then keep it to yourself' LOL been at it for 45 years still don't have it down pat yet!
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You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, you can make a purse out of it, but it won't be silk. LOL
 
Maybe in about another 30-40 years I'll get this "being an expert" thing figured out by then. LOL
 
Still trying to practice Granny's advice 'if you don't have anything nice to say then keep it to yourself' LOL been at it for 45 years still don't have it down pat yet!
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post #18 of 26

Cowgirl, looks like we've hijacked your thread.  Hope you don't mind too much.  Maybe some pictures will help apologize.

I ran the BSL/RSL cross.  I got that the same percentage will have the red/buff barring.  What that means is that 1 in 8 of the pullets will be either red or buff barred.  The odds of the pullet being red barred is greater than her being buff barred by quite a bit, but you may get either.  I was not alert enough to keep the two separate.  If you want a buff barred, use a buff hen instead of a red. 

I have a chick that might be interesting.  The father is a Speckled Sussex/Delaware cross.
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/22249_rsl_roojpeg.jpg

He gets the barring from his mother.  Those two white tail feathers are from the SS father.

I don't know what the mother is.  The possibilities are SS roo/Delaware hen cross, SS roo/BO hen cross, and SS roo/BA hen cross.  From trying to decipher Tim's comments, I think it could be from any of these hens.  He said the barring could damped down the red to buff. 

The SS/BO cross.
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/22249_ss_bo_pulletjpeg.jpg

The SS/Delaware cross.  An old photo.  She is no longer with us. 
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/22249_del_pullet_cross.jpg

I do not have any photos of the SS/Black Australorp cross.  She looks like a BA but is very camera shy.

Actually all these chicks are from these possibilities.  They are about 5 weeks old.  When you cross crosses with crosses, you really lose control on what you might get.  The chick I'm talking about is the yellow barred on the left.  Is this close to what you were looking for?  I'm pretty sure it is a rooster.

http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/22249_yellow_barredjpeg.jpg

In this shot, it is the one trying to hide, again on the left. 

http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/22249_4_chicksjpeg.jpg

Freedom is not the right to do what we want, but what we ought....Abraham Lincoln (Freedom carries responsibility)

The spirit of liberty is the spirit which is not too sure that it is right.....Judge Learned Hand  (The more sure your are that your way is the only right way, the more likely you are wrong.)

 

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Freedom is not the right to do what we want, but what we ought....Abraham Lincoln (Freedom carries responsibility)

The spirit of liberty is the spirit which is not too sure that it is right.....Judge Learned Hand  (The more sure your are that your way is the only right way, the more likely you are wrong.)

 

http://www.backyardchickens.com/a/how-much-room-do-chickens-need

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post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by Ridgerunner 

Cowgirl, looks like we've hijacked your thread.  Hope you don't mind too much.  Maybe some pictures will help apologize.


I don't mind at all! wink  Very pretty birds, especially the yellow barred chick!

Catdaddy:  WOW.  I knew Mr. Adkerson was very knowledgeable about chicken color genetics, but had no idea he knew it that in depth...  I got a little dizzy trying to read and comprehend what he was saying in plain simple English!  lol

Ridgerunner:  Could you maybe pass along a link to Henk's calculator?  I'd love to mess around on it, LOL!

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post #20 of 26

If you need a little help, I'll try.  I am not an expert by a long shot, but I am addicted. 

http://kippenjungle.nl/Overzicht.htm#kipcalculator

Freedom is not the right to do what we want, but what we ought....Abraham Lincoln (Freedom carries responsibility)

The spirit of liberty is the spirit which is not too sure that it is right.....Judge Learned Hand  (The more sure your are that your way is the only right way, the more likely you are wrong.)

 

http://www.backyardchickens.com/a/how-much-room-do-chickens-need

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Freedom is not the right to do what we want, but what we ought....Abraham Lincoln (Freedom carries responsibility)

The spirit of liberty is the spirit which is not too sure that it is right.....Judge Learned Hand  (The more sure your are that your way is the only right way, the more likely you are wrong.)

 

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