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post #1171 of 1588


I was told you should always consider then possible paint carriers and not mix them with other non paints thinking you will get only solids. this is what I am doing. and when you sell them, those people should know they might carry paint as well.
 

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Originally Posted by FrenchToast View Post

Ok, I know this question has been asked before but here we go again.

 

I hatched out some chicks from two black hens and a paint roo. I hatched out paints, black and white chicks.

 

 

My question is, well there are several.

 

Are the blacks considered pure blacks? Meaning will I get 100 % blacks if I breed them together ? Or will I get mixed colors or paints if I breed them to each other? Same question about the whites?

Bred together white x white, will I get all whites?

 

So basically the question would be are they considered split to paint (I know they don't know enough know enough about the paints yet )

 

And then what about breeding a white offspring to a black offspring from the above chicks? Could you get paints with them ? White back to paint or black back to the paint parent?

 

 

So as you can see I'm a bit confused. I don't really have the room to experiment with this since I have only so many cages !! I hatched some very nice blacks and whites out of these pairs and wonder if I could or should ad them to my pure black and white breeding pairs ???? Don't want to do that if I won't get pure black and whites out of them.

 

Thanks for your input

 

 



 

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visit the Maine Chicken Stocks swaps and shows thread to see what's going on in your part of Maine

 

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post #1172 of 1588

Thanks,

That's what I tought. Wish they knew more about the paint gene.
 

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I was told you should always consider then possible paint carriers and not mix them with other non paints thinking you will get only solids. this is what I am doing. and when you sell them, those people should know they might carry paint as well.
 

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Originally Posted by FrenchToast View Post

Ok, I know this question has been asked before but here we go again.

 

I hatched out some chicks from two black hens and a paint roo. I hatched out paints, black and white chicks.

 

 

My question is, well there are several.

 

Are the blacks considered pure blacks? Meaning will I get 100 % blacks if I breed them together ? Or will I get mixed colors or paints if I breed them to each other? Same question about the whites?

Bred together white x white, will I get all whites?

 

So basically the question would be are they considered split to paint (I know they don't know enough know enough about the paints yet )

 

And then what about breeding a white offspring to a black offspring from the above chicks? Could you get paints with them ? White back to paint or black back to the paint parent?

 

 

So as you can see I'm a bit confused. I don't really have the room to experiment with this since I have only so many cages !! I hatched some very nice blacks and whites out of these pairs and wonder if I could or should ad them to my pure black and white breeding pairs ???? Don't want to do that if I won't get pure black and whites out of them.

 

Thanks for your input

 

 



 



 

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post #1173 of 1588

i was wondering the same if u breed paint to black wouldnt the offspring black silkies carry the paint gene and could u not rebreed them to a white or black and get some paint offspring?

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Bearded White,Black,Columbian,Buff,Blue,Partridge,Splash,Self Blue and paint silkies 

i love all silkies any color any shape any form show or not show quality they are just a lovely breed

Member of the American Silkie Bantam Club 

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post #1174 of 1588


that is the thought that they could produce paint even in solid to solid breeding.
 

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Originally Posted by sager:)silkies View Post

i was wondering the same if u breed paint to black wouldnt the offspring black silkies carry the paint gene and could u not rebreed them to a white or black and get some paint offspring?



 

If you love your chicken, thank a breeder. NPIP tested

 

visit the Maine Chicken Stocks swaps and shows thread to see what's going on in your part of Maine

 

http://www.backyardchickens.com/a/maine-chicken-swaps-stocks-and-shows-2013

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If you love your chicken, thank a breeder. NPIP tested

 

visit the Maine Chicken Stocks swaps and shows thread to see what's going on in your part of Maine

 

http://www.backyardchickens.com/a/maine-chicken-swaps-stocks-and-shows-2013

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post #1175 of 1588

I have some solids that are from paint to splash. the splash is a very light colored bird. on these chicks, they are blueish and developing darker areas, if I didn't know they carried paint, I'd say they were very dark splash. I wonder if this isn't the paint showing up as spots on the blue?

If you love your chicken, thank a breeder. NPIP tested

 

visit the Maine Chicken Stocks swaps and shows thread to see what's going on in your part of Maine

 

http://www.backyardchickens.com/a/maine-chicken-swaps-stocks-and-shows-2013

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If you love your chicken, thank a breeder. NPIP tested

 

visit the Maine Chicken Stocks swaps and shows thread to see what's going on in your part of Maine

 

http://www.backyardchickens.com/a/maine-chicken-swaps-stocks-and-shows-2013

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post #1176 of 1588
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Originally Posted by hoppy View Post


that is the thought that they could produce paint even in solid to solid breeding.
 



 


I just hatched out 3 solid paints. I'm surprised this hasn't been tried dozens of times by now. Guess I'll try it when the time comes unless someone says I'm wasting my time. tongue.png
 

 

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post #1177 of 1588

Whether paint can hide or not is not unknown, although there are some who believe it can.  Personally I am very skeptical of it hiding in a black bird; slightly less so of it hiding in a white bird.  Is paint a separate, new gene?  Or is it the same gene that produces exchequers? Is it produced by a single gene, or is it like lacing and needs multiple genes?  We do too much "hatch everything in sight" and too little planned, experimental breeding and documentation.  I am guilty of this, too.

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Breeder & Exhibitor of fine silkies in Black, Blue, Splash, Grey, Partridge & Lavender.  Working on Dun, Mottled, Partridge dilutions, Paint, Porcelain & other exciting new colours
adult and started pairs occasionally available;
   No eggs or chicks. 
Support your local poultry clubs, breed clubs, ABA & APA!

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post #1178 of 1588
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Originally Posted by Sonoran Silkies View Post

Whether paint can hide or not is not unknown, although there are some who believe it can.  Personally I am very skeptical of it hiding in a black bird; slightly less so of it hiding in a white bird.  Is paint a separate, new gene?  Or is it the same gene that produces exchequers? Is it produced by a single gene, or is it like lacing and needs multiple genes?  We do too much "hatch everything in sight" and too little planned, experimental breeding and documentation.  I am guilty of this, too.


Of course it will be months before I can experiment and in the mean time I'll keep following this thread and see what others are doing. smile.png
 

 

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post #1179 of 1588

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one of my new paint babies I hatched 3 days old

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Almost did not post just because last time i did not many people had anything nice to say but these are for those who just love cute chicks

Wife to Wonderful Silkie Lover, Mother of 2 Teen Girls, and Chicken mama to Numerous Silkies , Spitzhaubens, MArans, Emu's and hens! One Boxer, White sheapard and My 2 LGD LOL Maltease they  love thier chickens! www.sweetpeepschicks.com

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Wife to Wonderful Silkie Lover, Mother of 2 Teen Girls, and Chicken mama to Numerous Silkies , Spitzhaubens, MArans, Emu's and hens! One Boxer, White sheapard and My 2 LGD LOL Maltease they  love thier chickens! www.sweetpeepschicks.com

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post #1180 of 1588
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Originally Posted by psycoforsilkies View Post

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one of my new paint babies I hatched 3 days old

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Almost did not post just because last time i did not many people had anything nice to say but these are for those who just love cute chicks

OMG! I'm in love!!! love.gif

 

 

Twin Oaks Ranch Silkies  frow.gif   I can't believe those little Silkies grabbed my heart! love.gif jumpy.gif
I have a wonderful DH who's a silkie enabler! love.gif
  Member of American Silkie Bantam Club!

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Twin Oaks Ranch Silkies  frow.gif   I can't believe those little Silkies grabbed my heart! love.gif jumpy.gif
I have a wonderful DH who's a silkie enabler! love.gif
  Member of American Silkie Bantam Club!

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