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Background info.  This is Ruby, she is a 4 year old female bullmastiff.

when Rubys mother, Mabel, was 18 days into her gestation with Rubys litter she had something called Fibrocartilaginous emboli.  The initial treatment consisted of IV corticosteroids(sp?).  She ended up making a full recovery.  The steroids given at that particular time in gestation showed itself when the litter was whelped. Out of the 8 pups whelped 4 had to be euthanized due to severe cleft pallets(17-21 days gestation is when the pallets form and the steroids affected their development).  Of the remaining 4 puppies 2 had umbilical hernias..1 repaired itself the other was repaired during the castration surgery.

Ruby was not spayed until age 2..But had never had a heat cycle.

This "lump" is very hard and boney and is not painful.

It originally showed up when Ruby was about 6 months old(it has never gone away), she had a trip to the vet..x rays..inconclusive.  The next step suggested to us was an assessment by a specialist at the university of guelph..cost..2000.00 to walk in the door(any tests would be extra).  we opted out of that and figure we would see how it progressed and decide from there.

She is healthy as a horse besides this bump.  It doesn't seem to cause her any troubles.  My gut Feeling is this is somehow related back to the steroids she was exposed to inutero...The vet doesn't think so but has no better explanation for it.

Just thought I would post a pic and see if anybody else had any ideas or may have seen something similar before.

Ruby is a great dog!

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OOh wow..weird...
Is it growing?

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It started when she was 6months old, grew along with her  until she was one and has not changed in size  at all in the last 3 years.

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We lost a sweet bull mastiff in our family this year. Sniff.  I would doublecheck the charge for the U as I have taken my dog to the U of M vet school here and there was no huge fee to walk in the door. I think the consultation was $150. Sorry I can't be more help. She looks like a sweetie regardless.

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Originally Posted by True Grit 

We lost a sweet bull mastiff in our family this year. Sniff.  I would doublecheck the charge for the U as I have taken my dog to the U of M vet school here and there was no huge fee to walk in the door. I think the consultation was $150. Sorry I can't be more help. She looks like a sweetie regardless.


Sorry for your loss...we have 2 bullies and love them very much..they are hard to lose.

I think all of your vet prices in the states are much cheaper than here in Canada.  The vet told us it would be 2k for the initial assessment and  she would need a biopsy right off the hop.  AT this point she has had it 3.5 years..its not changing..it doesn't cause her any pain..I don't think  we will be investigating it any further unless it starts causing her trouble.

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Not a clue.  Now our male dog has a very prominent lump/bump on his head, but it's centered, so I just assumed it's just the way his skull formed.  Possibly coincidentally, but we really didn't notice it until he was 6-7 months old.  Since it's hard and hasn't changed for a LONG time, I wouldn't worry about it myself...I'd just think the skeletal material of his skull is somewhat misshapen... hu

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It's not changing, It's not causing her discomfort.  I would leave it alone and just keep an eye on it.  If things start changing regroup and make plans accordingly.  I recently (2.5 years ago) had a dog with an undefined neurological problem after $1,200 of testing.  My vet (a friend) who was as frustrated as me suggested that I might want to take her for an MRI.  Projected price $2,000+ with a probable result of no diagnosis.  We never diagnosed her problem but stumbled upon a treatment regimen that gives her an excellent quality of life.  She is now 8 years old, and if symptoms return decisions will have to be made at that point.  Just like human medicine, veterinary medicine is frequently an inexact science.

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post #8 of 40

Have your regular vet biopsy it under general anesthesia. It may be a benign cartilage growth, but if you want to know what it is for sure- you need a tissue sample examined at a qualified lab.

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it adds character

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It's not changing, It's not causing her discomfort.  I would leave it alone and just keep an eye on it.  If things start changing regroup and make plans accordingly.  I recently (2.5 years ago) had a dog with an undefined neurological problem after $1,200 of testing.  My vet (a friend) who was as frustrated as me suggested that I might want to take her for an MRI.  Projected price $2,000+ with a probable result of no diagnosis.  We never diagnosed her problem but stumbled upon a treatment regimen that gives her an excellent quality of life.  She is now 8 years old, and if symptoms return decisions will have to be made at that point.  Just like human medicine, veterinary medicine is frequently an inexact science.


That was basically what we we're told as well.  Good probability of no diagnosis. 

I just thought I would post it and see if anybody had any ideas or may have seen something like that before...our vet hadn't..

I'm not concerned about it now...I was when we first noticed it.  Doesn't really seem to bother her.  Poor gal with her lumpy head...her sweetness makes up for her odd appearance though.


Edited by taraann81 - 1/1/11 at 6:39am
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