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post #11 of 65

Go to the Gun Shows, you can get a 7.62 X 54 Mosin Nagant new in the box (with cosmoline) for around $100 (+/-). It's equivalant to a 30.06 in ballistics and a hello of a lot cheaper. I have a Ruger M77 30.06 I purchased some time ago for a lot. My Son bought a Mosin Nagant 30/91 of WWII vintage still new in the box, the darn thing outshoots my 30.06. I hate it when my Kids are smarter then me! (not really, he shows me up all the time)

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I know where I can get a 91 30 Mosin Nagant for about $90 I don't think it's in the box but it comes with a cleaning kit.

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I know where I can get a 91 30 Mosin Nagant for about $90 I don't think it's in the box but it comes with a cleaning kit.


My son had some very good luck with his 91/30's. His M44 Mosin Nagant is more of a carbine and is not as accurate as his 4 other Mosin Nagant's, yes, I said 4. One of his 91/30's, he has replaced the original wood with a drop in modern synthetic stock and works well for hunting. (The little tur*, has paid less for all his Mosin Nagants then I paid for my Ruger 30.06, I'm P.O.ed)

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My friend has a M44 Mosin Nagant and I am hoping to shoot it to see what it is like.

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Do you have any suggestions on how to tell if a Mosin Nagant is in good working condition? Or any gun for that matter?

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post #16 of 65
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Do you have any suggestions on how to tell if a Mosin Nagant is in good working condition? Or any gun for that matter?


Go to Google and look for 7.64 x 54r.net. They have more answers then you have questions. That's where my Son learned about all the manufactor stamp marks.


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post #17 of 65

A surplus 8mm Mauser is also a good usually "cheap" alternative to a 30-06.
BUT, my choice would be a WW II Springfield 30-06 if you can find one at a reasonable price. EXCELLENT RIFLE !
(worth the extra money, in my opinion)

-Junkmanme- old

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I know this is a little off topic but I was wondering what is a good inexpensive rifle for deer hunting I am planning on getting a gun soon, I have researched a little and I think that 30-06, .308(Mosin Nagant), and .270 are all good guns but I was wondering what a good deal on one would be I am talking about used and fairly good condition guns I preffer bolt action and would like to have the ability to also hunt elk or bear if I ever have the chance so I guess that leaves out the .270. I am also wondering what some good brands are I have heard that Winchester and Remington are both good.


Winchester & Remington are both good choices, but you will find that if you ask 30 people what they prefer, you will get 30 different answers. It's like the "Ford/Chevy" debate. I personally like Henry rifles . They date back to the 1860's and are still in production today. They can be purchased NEW for what a lot of other rifles go for used. Especially in the "Youth" sized rifles.

They are reliable, come in a variety of calibers and I would put them up against any other rifle, someone is looking for - as their first or used rifle.

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post #19 of 65

Eggboy,

Nothing wrong with a Mosin if you remember what you are getting, especially in a vintage WWII era weapon. These were made by the Soviets or their supporters when quality materials were in short supply and mass produced with little quality control. Most (not all) were purchased after the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact crumbled from depots in places like Yugoslavia and Albania and had been in storage the entire time (probably better that way). A buddy of mine collects Mosin Nagant's as a hobby, and he was always buying more for plinking as he is a shooter not a hunter. I think he has enough to arm a small central american army (jk).

If you end up getting a Mosin I would take it to a good gunsmith and have him/her inspect it. Also take the ammo you would like to shoot to make sure the gun can handle the pressure of modern hunting loads and powders that you intend to use.

I have purchased a number of guns, some from Turkey (modern o/u shotguns) and after having them inspected in the US, I will never shoot high power/steel through the barrels. They are great quail/dove guns just not built for the high power steel or turkey loads. It just boils down to the quality of materials that are used in certain countries. I am not agaist old guns and I am currently looking to buy a 30-40 or even 50 year old Drilling, but these are all post war and made in the former West Germany (quality materials/control not an issue).

I am not saying don't buy a Mosin, just have it checked out by a professional to make sure it will be safe to shoot the ammo you will use for hunting. I was really surprised when the gunsmith strongly recommended not shooting certain loads through my shotguns I thought were safe. Chances are the Mosin will be fine, but I am one of the better safe than sorry types and like to make sure.

Botton Line: Get what fits your needs and $$$ requirements. The gun is for you, not me or anyone else. If you like it and feel comfortable shooting it--buy it.

Happy Hunting

DarkMatter, now I am curious...where does your son get hunting ammo for his guns or moreover what is the brand?  I have only used Mosin's for plinking (FMJ ammo) and didn't realize there was hunting ammo available, hmmm something I don't have and can justify as another hunting rifle. I googled some pic's, and put in a synthetic stock it is a much nicer looking weapon. I had honestly thought about getting one as a backyard shooter, but couldn't bring myself to make the purchase as a high powered plinking rifle when a 10/22 is a cheaper option. Thanks for any info.

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Eggboy,

DarkMatter, now I am curious...where does your son get hunting ammo for his guns or moreover what is the brand?  I have only used Mosin's for plinking (FMJ ammo) and didn't realize there was hunting ammo available, hmmm something I don't have and can justify as another hunting rifle. I googled some pic's, and put in a synthetic stock it is a much nicer looking weapon. I had honestly thought about getting one as a backyard shooter, but couldn't bring myself to make the purchase as a high powered plinking rifle when a 10/22 is a cheaper option. Thanks for any info.


Wolf Ammo sells 7.62 X54 hunting ammo. He has also picked up some other hunting bullet rounds, I can't remember the other brands. He has one 91/30 with the sniper stamping and original WWII scope & mount. It shoots fine. He has bought the FMJ sardine cans of surplus ammo for plinking. I'm not too impressed with the M44, but the 91/30's are a fine rifle------but I always favored bolt action myself, never cared for semi-auto. (but then I started out with black powder muzzleloaders where the first shot had better count if you wanted to eat.)

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