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Go to the Gun Shows, you can get a 7.62 X 54 Mosin Nagant new in the box (with cosmoline) for around $100 (+/-). It's equivalant to a 30.06 in ballistics and a hello of a lot cheaper. I have a Ruger M77 30.06 I purchased some time ago for a lot. My Son bought a Mosin Nagant 30/91 of WWII vintage still new in the box, the darn thing outshoots my 30.06. I hate it when my Kids are smarter then me! (not really, he shows me up all the time)


If I got a Mosin Nagant new in the box would I still have to check the headspace and such? Or would it be like buying a new rifle?


When my Son bought his, it took a couple hours cleaning the 60 year old cosmoline out of it. A careful examination and then off to the range (my backyard). Yes it was "brand new". This site: http://7.62x54r.net/

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answer more questions then you know to ask. There were many factories that made the Mosin Nagant, this site will let you know which stampings were made where and the quality of the firearm--but all were made to military standards. A friend of my Son has a "bring back" Mosin that shows the wear and tear of 60 years of use, the rifling looks nearly smooth and it does not group as well, but still shoots well enough to have served three generations of deer hunting.


So if I got a Mosin Nagant new in the box I could just give it a thourough cleaning (to get rid of the cosmoline) and be good to go?

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darkmatter wrote:


eggboy wrote:



If I got a Mosin Nagant new in the box would I still have to check the headspace and such? Or would it be like buying a new rifle?


When my Son bought his, it took a couple hours cleaning the 60 year old cosmoline out of it. A careful examination and then off to the range (my backyard). Yes it was "brand new". This site: http://7.62x54r.net/

should
answer more questions then you know to ask. There were many factories that made the Mosin Nagant, this site will let you know which stampings were made where and the quality of the firearm--but all were made to military standards. A friend of my Son has a "bring back" Mosin that shows the wear and tear of 60 years of use, the rifling looks nearly smooth and it does not group as well, but still shoots well enough to have served three generations of deer hunting.


So if I got a Mosin Nagant new in the box I could just give it a thourough cleaning (to get rid of the cosmoline) and be good to go?


Would you really take my advice or anyone's from a chicken forum without confirming a technical reference and/or certifications for Firearms. Everyone has an opinion, but the internet can also give you hard technical knowledge. If you're that unsure about buying and using a deer hunting rifle------read everything and take a firearms and hunting course.

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darkmatter wrote:


eggboy wrote:



If I got a Mosin Nagant new in the box would I still have to check the headspace and such? Or would it be like buying a new rifle?


When my Son bought his, it took a couple hours cleaning the 60 year old cosmoline out of it. A careful examination and then off to the range (my backyard). Yes it was "brand new". This site: http://7.62x54r.net/

should
answer more questions then you know to ask. There were many factories that made the Mosin Nagant, this site will let you know which stampings were made where and the quality of the firearm--but all were made to military standards. A friend of my Son has a "bring back" Mosin that shows the wear and tear of 60 years of use, the rifling looks nearly smooth and it does not group as well, but still shoots well enough to have served three generations of deer hunting.


So if I got a Mosin Nagant new in the box I could just give it a thourough cleaning (to get rid of the cosmoline) and be good to go?


Eggboy,

Yes, if you can get a Mosin new in the box it is a "new" 60 year old gun. I would still strongly recommend getting it checked out by a gun smith. With a "new" Mosin it is not a question of how the gun was previously shot but how it was manufactured. The Russians made and continue to make things to be disposable, if it doesn't work they throw it away and pick up a new one. The manufacturing techniques and quality varied from factory to factory and country to country. There is probably a 90%+ chance the gun will be fine and operate with no issues. But the question you have to answer for yourself is the danger of a malfunction because of a variance in manufacturing either in materials or spacing worth a trip to the hospital, when if you take it to the gun smith you can know for sure.

It is a small amount of $$ upfront to make sure you and your family don't suffer needlessly later.

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