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I let the chickens out around 4:30 pm.  After about 5 minutes I heard them get upset and I ran out the side door
where 2 of my chickens were.  I then saw 2 birds under the house in the backyard.  My Pearl White Leghorn was laying down
and what I thought was my Barred Rock ended up being a hawk.   My husband scared the hawk away.  When I opened
the back door she got up and hobbled into the house.  I picked her up and noticed a brown and yellow grainy substance
on her chest.  It was her crop area that was cut open.  The cut was about 1 inch in length.  All I could think of was what
do I do, let her die or try to help her.  So I got out the needle and thread and stitched it.  I gave her around 10 stitches. 
I put some triple antibiotic ointment on the area and put her back in the coop.  The other hens were up on their roost for
the night.  She ate a little and then headed up the ramp.  I placed her on the roost and she was there until the next morning.
I had to go away for a few days so I could not watch her.  7 days later I removed the stitches and applied more of the
ointment.  It looked like she may have pecked at the stitches a little and there is an area approximately 6/8 inch in diameter
that is hardened and a dark brown color.  She has been laying an egg daily since the attack and does not act sick.  Should
I be doing something else for her?  I did sprinkle some garlic powder in the chicken water for 3 days hoping it would help
prevent infection.  This is my first message on BYC.  Thank you.

Wonderful DH, 2 children, 3 grandchildren, 9 City Chics:  1 RIR, 1 Australorp, 2 Araucana, 1 Pearl White Leghorn, 2 Leghorns, 2 Wellsummers.


Praise the Lord with the lyre and make melody to Him with the harp of ten strings!   
Sing to Him a new song.  Play skillfully on the strings with loud shouts.  Psalm 33:2-3

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Wonderful DH, 2 children, 3 grandchildren, 9 City Chics:  1 RIR, 1 Australorp, 2 Araucana, 1 Pearl White Leghorn, 2 Leghorns, 2 Wellsummers.


Praise the Lord with the lyre and make melody to Him with the harp of ten strings!   
Sing to Him a new song.  Play skillfully on the strings with loud shouts.  Psalm 33:2-3

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welcome-byc  A job well done.  You didn't know you would become a chicken surgeon when you started on this journey did you!  Chickens are far more resilient and hardy than some give them credit for.clap

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Thank you for your positive response.  It affirmed that what I did was good.

Wonderful DH, 2 children, 3 grandchildren, 9 City Chics:  1 RIR, 1 Australorp, 2 Araucana, 1 Pearl White Leghorn, 2 Leghorns, 2 Wellsummers.


Praise the Lord with the lyre and make melody to Him with the harp of ten strings!   
Sing to Him a new song.  Play skillfully on the strings with loud shouts.  Psalm 33:2-3

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Wonderful DH, 2 children, 3 grandchildren, 9 City Chics:  1 RIR, 1 Australorp, 2 Araucana, 1 Pearl White Leghorn, 2 Leghorns, 2 Wellsummers.


Praise the Lord with the lyre and make melody to Him with the harp of ten strings!   
Sing to Him a new song.  Play skillfully on the strings with loud shouts.  Psalm 33:2-3

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post #4 of 12

Nice job smile
Sounds like that hawk was just waiting for them sad

Question: did you stitch the crop as well as the skin?
How did she handle the pain?  How ever did you get her to stay still for that???

Carrie Lynn

1 Papillon, 2 mill rescue Shih-Tzus, 1 Bantam Leghorn, 1 Australorp & 2 BR.
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1 Papillon, 2 mill rescue Shih-Tzus, 1 Bantam Leghorn, 1 Australorp & 2 BR.
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great job   thumbsup

Living in the Beautiful Mountains of Western N.C.. with 23 chickens= EE's, Game, Cochin bantams,Light Brahma, 7 Black Australorps 13Muscovy ducks, 1Embden Gander,1 Toulouse goose, 3 mini Dachshunds, 1 mixed breed, pond goldfish,  and a wonderful Husband who makes it all possible..♥

 



 

 

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Living in the Beautiful Mountains of Western N.C.. with 23 chickens= EE's, Game, Cochin bantams,Light Brahma, 7 Black Australorps 13Muscovy ducks, 1Embden Gander,1 Toulouse goose, 3 mini Dachshunds, 1 mixed breed, pond goldfish,  and a wonderful Husband who makes it all possible..♥

 



 

 

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Unfortunately, I looked at the picture of a chicken's anatomy later that night.  I then realized that I stitched the crop to the skin below which meant that the lower part of the crop was not attached.  It was too late at this point and I wasn't going to undo the stitches.  I just hoped and prayed that she would get better.  As I mentioned, the area looks as though she opened a part of it but it formed a hard crust on that area.  There doesn't appear to be any redness or oozing of any matter which would indicate infection.  My chicken is 8 months of age and her behavior has not changed at all.  I only have 5 chickens.  They trust me.  As soon as I came to the back door, this chicken hobbled in hoping I would help her.  After I washed the area she began to close her eyes to sleep but opened them every time I spoke.  I had to remain calm because as she looked at me I felt that she could sense my feelings.  She remained calm as I stitched.  She could have been in shock but I'm not sure.

Wonderful DH, 2 children, 3 grandchildren, 9 City Chics:  1 RIR, 1 Australorp, 2 Araucana, 1 Pearl White Leghorn, 2 Leghorns, 2 Wellsummers.


Praise the Lord with the lyre and make melody to Him with the harp of ten strings!   
Sing to Him a new song.  Play skillfully on the strings with loud shouts.  Psalm 33:2-3

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Wonderful DH, 2 children, 3 grandchildren, 9 City Chics:  1 RIR, 1 Australorp, 2 Araucana, 1 Pearl White Leghorn, 2 Leghorns, 2 Wellsummers.


Praise the Lord with the lyre and make melody to Him with the harp of ten strings!   
Sing to Him a new song.  Play skillfully on the strings with loud shouts.  Psalm 33:2-3

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post #7 of 12

I hope she can heal, please keep us updated.

Good Luck

1 Papillon, 2 mill rescue Shih-Tzus, 1 Bantam Leghorn, 1 Australorp & 2 BR.
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1 Papillon, 2 mill rescue Shih-Tzus, 1 Bantam Leghorn, 1 Australorp & 2 BR.
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post #8 of 12

Job well done! thumbsup

For future reference? My vet suggested using Superglue to close wounds, leaving a tiny space for drainage, if needed.

Don't get all your exercise leaping to conclusions!

Poultry- they may be your pets, they may be your hobby, they may be your livestock. But remember, if you fall down in the pen, unconscious? They WILL eat you.
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Don't get all your exercise leaping to conclusions!

Poultry- they may be your pets, they may be your hobby, they may be your livestock. But remember, if you fall down in the pen, unconscious? They WILL eat you.
Chicken Tender of 20 years
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post #9 of 12

Sounds like you followed your instincts and did an amazing job! I might consider following up with a round of penicillin shots to be on the safe side. Here is a great article for your reference. 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenda L Heywood 

Here is some excellent advise

WOUND CARE FOR INJURED BIRDS
From the National Poultry News

NATHALIE ROSS
HOUSTON TEXAS
As poultry owners, we're very familiar with the
proverbial "pecking order" and the fights that result
from it.  Too often those chicken wars, or others,
will cause injuries in the flock - flesh wounds - and
we're left to take care of our injured birds.  Here
are some hints that I hope will help you in the
moments where you have a flock in need of nursing.

Since many poultry wounds are caused by a peck, a
spur, a claw, or something else dirty, germs often get
deep into the wounds during the injury time.  We try
to get them all out during the cleansing of the wound,

but sometimes we're just not as good at it as we'd
like.  The result is a weepy wound.  But it's
necessary for the healing of the wound that we 
do our best to prevent that situation.

Iodine is great for initially cleansing most wounds
because of its strong antibacterial benefits, but in
the case of deeper wounds one has to be careful.  A
good habit is to cleanse the wound with hydrogen 
peroxide (which bubbles out bits that we can't see),
then follow that with what I call "Iodine Tea".

  Iodine Tea, a solution used frequently at vet 
clinics to irrigate (wash out) wounds is just enough
iodine mixed into warm water until it's a tea color. 
You then use that in a syringe without the needle to
strongly squirt into the wound several times.  That 
ensures that the iodine is getting deep into the wound
to kill bacteria.

After cleansing the wound thoroughly, it's best to dry
it out so that the dressing you use next will adhere
to the wound better.

I recommend keeping a wound open and dry (especially
in the summer time) so that the air can get down into
it. Most of your bad wound bacteria are anaerobic (in
other words, they hate air - love the lack of air) 
and they thrive in closed conditions.   

There's an old addage "dry wound-wet dressing, wet
wound-dry dressing"  that applies.  Especially with
chickens in the winter, one normally has 
to be wary of using wet ointments because the birds
can chill easily.   
Small spots of it are certainly acceptable, however. 
Because of the nasty nature of chickens, most wounds
are wet (weepy) so we do dry dressings like Furox
spray (yellow powder, otherwise known as furoxazone)
or blue lotions like Anti-Pick lotion, or other
livestock lotions which dry to a blue film.

Some people are concerned with the openness of a wound
and consider stitching as an option.  The problem with
SOME stitching, however, is that it creates a pocket
and closes the wound up from air. 
Because of that, it is always best to let a
Veterinarian or someone experienced do that work. 
Often a vet will leave a drain tube in a deep
wound so that the  resulting pus has an outlet.  In
any case, stitched wounds require a very careful
watch.   

Often when skin dies, the resulting dead (necrotic)
skin has to be abrided (cleaned off) because there's
really no need for it and it begins to break down.  It
is also common for there to be infection inside the 
wound that isn't obvious from the outside.  If that
happens, you have a serious situation which can result
in blood infection and death of the bird.  So, you can
see, that if you are dealing with an injury of that 
magnitute it would be best to get a vet or experienced
stockman  involved.

When a wound is open, you have the chance to be able
to examine it more easily and less chance of anaerobic
infection.  Actually, you would be surprised just how
large a wound can heal with feathers and all!   

On a personal note, I once saved a hen from the jaws
of a chow.  She had a wound so deep on her back that
you could see the entirety of one side of her spinal
cord wrapping (I'll never forget the silver sheen).   
She was a lucky girl, but it was a large wound.

When using wet ointments, flies found the wound and
left their eggs deep deep in the ointment.  When they
hatched, I had a nasty surprise and an even nastier
task.  When the wound was recleaned, I took the old 
standard vet advice and used a dry would dressing
instead, aerosol furox so that it would get deep into
the wound, and from that point onwards 
the wound healed fantastically.   

This wound was a good 2 inches long, 1.5 inches wide,
and at least an inch deep.  The hen feathered up
completely and led a very happy chow-free life til her
last days here at the house. Chickens heal from wounds

remarkably!

You can do the same with your injured chickens.  It
doesn't take a surgeon or a master-poultryman to take
good care of a wound.  It just takes a little
understanding of how wounds work, a close watchful
eye, and a willingness to take the bird to a vet if
you intend to keep it and if the wound is more than
you can handle easily.

Hopefully with these tools, now, you'll be able to
face a poultry wound with more confidence and more
success.  I wish you all the best with your flock.

Nathalie Ross
Houston, TX

Loving country life with two sweet dogs, three crazy kitties, nine happy chickens - 3 Welsummers (Emma, Hilda & Rose), 2 Salmon Faverolles (Weezah & Gertrude), 3 EE's (Hazel, Harriet & Bertha), 1 Partridge Pendasenca (Anges) and the most amazing man on the planet!

 

<3 RIP- Hattie, Bernice, and little Ruthie <3

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Loving country life with two sweet dogs, three crazy kitties, nine happy chickens - 3 Welsummers (Emma, Hilda & Rose), 2 Salmon Faverolles (Weezah & Gertrude), 3 EE's (Hazel, Harriet & Bertha), 1 Partridge Pendasenca (Anges) and the most amazing man on the planet!

 

<3 RIP- Hattie, Bernice, and little Ruthie <3

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Thank you all so very much for the advice and information.  I will keep you all informed on how my chicken is doing.  You are all great!!!

Wonderful DH, 2 children, 3 grandchildren, 9 City Chics:  1 RIR, 1 Australorp, 2 Araucana, 1 Pearl White Leghorn, 2 Leghorns, 2 Wellsummers.


Praise the Lord with the lyre and make melody to Him with the harp of ten strings!   
Sing to Him a new song.  Play skillfully on the strings with loud shouts.  Psalm 33:2-3

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Wonderful DH, 2 children, 3 grandchildren, 9 City Chics:  1 RIR, 1 Australorp, 2 Araucana, 1 Pearl White Leghorn, 2 Leghorns, 2 Wellsummers.


Praise the Lord with the lyre and make melody to Him with the harp of ten strings!   
Sing to Him a new song.  Play skillfully on the strings with loud shouts.  Psalm 33:2-3

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