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Okay thanks!! That helped a lot!!! big_smile I emailed a place in Florida called Healthy Heart Farms and they had (in my novice opinion) very nice Rocks! I won't be able to get any from them, as they live in Florida, but they said they got theirs from Myer Poultry (not Meyer) and Mt. Healthy Hatchery. Has anyone had any experience with Myer? I hadn't ever paid much attention to them, but maybe I should now! idunno Also, when the hatcheries email me back, what are some good places they could have sources theirs from?

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Originally Posted by Carrie Lynn 

Anyone have opinions on PR being particularly broody?
Thanks in advance,
Carrie Lynn


Anyone else?


Edited by Carrie Lynn - 12/4/11 at 4:03pm
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1 Papillon, 2 mill rescue Shih-Tzus, 1 Bantam Leghorn, 1 Australorp & 2 BR.
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post #253 of 519
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Originally Posted by poultryluvr18 

BlazeJester, what do you mean the penciling comes to a point? Sorry, I'm very new to breeding to the standard and don't know what that means. I've read lots of books, but still don't fully understand. Is there anything else I should be looking for?
Also, I'm kind of confused. So I should be looking at Mt. Healthy, Privett, DFCottage's, and Dick Horstman's? Thanks for your help so far!


Dick Horstman has the best quality partridge rocks you can find. If you can afford them, they are $6/chick for a minimum of 10 chicks, plus shipping from Pennsylvania. I'll let the others speak for themselves, but some of the members on this thread may be willing to send you chicks or eggs.

If you look at the very last picture on page 23, you'll notice that hen has two clearly defined black "chevrons" on each feather, whereas in the picture of my Meyer PR on page 24, some feathers lack the second chevron or have different shapes. They are also not as clearly defined and the color contrast is not as striking. I'm not familiar with the exact standard since I've not seen the book (someone mentioned it's copyrighted and not available on the internet), but those are things that stand out to me as quality issues for coloring. Being sexed pullets from Meyer, I'm sure they are bred primarily for production.

Not knowing where Mt Healthy & Privett source their birds (someone on this forum might, though, and several of the hatcheries actually have an account here), it's a toss up what you'll get. I'd be inclined to agree if someone told me that smaller hatcheries are able to have better breeding stock because they have less demand and therefore more flexibility toward quality, but I have no direct experience with that.

You might want to put out feelers on the "Chicken Breeders & Hatcheries" section and see if you can get responses from any of the hatchery folks regarding the quality or sourcing of their stock.


There is an auction for these.  Ends tonight

http://www.featherauction.com/detail.asp?id=2241&n=Partridge-Rock-eggs

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Okay, found some new information. Talked to DFCottage, and will hopefully be able to get eggs from them, but in case I don't, emailed some hatcheries. www.mypetchicken.com says they've "...had them long enough it wouldn't be proper for us to claim they were from someone else's lines". Mount Healthy said they originally got theirs from McMurray, but have had them for a while, and McMurray didn't know where they got theirs from. I emailed Healthy Heart Farms again and it was a misspelling and they actually got theirs from Meyer and Mt. Healthy. So it seems like everything comes back to Mt. Healthy, then to McMurray. And DFCottage of course. Anybody got opinions on McMurray in general? I won't be able to do Mt. Healthy because of the breed minimums, but they should be fairly similar, right? Thanks so much everyone!!

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While I'd love to see you go with a private breeder over a hatchery for many reasons, (either me or someone else), I have heard that McMurray's line of PR's have an attitude problem. Mean roos.. At one time I had PR's from Mt. Healthy, and they were nice, big birds. Ive heard several folks say their line of PR's is the best out of all the hatcheries. Sounds like Mt. Healthy really improved on what they got initially. What MPC said is odd.. They had to get their stock from somewhere, and if they've just had the same group of birds and their offspring for years, and not working diligently to improve it with new stock from other breeders, then it's definitely not their line. But, I don't know for sure where their stock comes from. They might have a mix of other hatchery's birds too.

The best advice I got when starting out was to ask around who has very good stock of the breeds/varieties I wanted, figure out what I could invest, and then buy from 2-3 breeders, for the best genetic diversity. It has made all the difference with my birds.

Shady Lane Farm (NPIP/AI): On 50 beautiful acres in central Virginia we raise: Black Copper Marans, Olive Eggers, Wheaten Ameraucanas, Silver Penciled Rocks, GermanNHxUtilityNH, Calico Cochin bantams, BCLB Dutch bantams, and Dark Cornish bantams. Also home to 2 OTTBs, a QH, a rescue mini and her goat, and 7 cats.
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Shady Lane Farm (NPIP/AI): On 50 beautiful acres in central Virginia we raise: Black Copper Marans, Olive Eggers, Wheaten Ameraucanas, Silver Penciled Rocks, GermanNHxUtilityNH, Calico Cochin bantams, BCLB Dutch bantams, and Dark Cornish bantams. Also home to 2 OTTBs, a QH, a rescue mini and her goat, and 7 cats.
Search for us on Facebook under 'Shady Lane Farm' and look for the black australorp.
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post #256 of 519

My Pet Chicken gets their stock from Meyer.  They do not hatch out their own chicks.  At least they have not in the past.

I can tesify to the quality of Mt Healthy PRs.  They have done some work with their birds.  I have been breeding from stock I got and it breeds true without major defaults.

As far as MM I would not buy from them. I have heard to many compalints not only on their PRs but others.  I know of one person who tried to bred up their PRs and had to ditch the whole program for the birds did not breed true.  I have also heard from many on here and off here that say they have gotten mean roosters in that color and hens have been very pecky.  I have a neibor that got some and got rid of them.  This year she bought from me since she did not want alot.

I guess since MM demand went well up.  They started cross breeding to increase egg production.  There orignal stock was must have been with a good breeder.  This is what Mt Healthy got before MM started there cross breeding.  I know from what I am seeing in my birds it looks like older stock to me.  Backs are longer than the newer stock and growth is way slower.  I have chicks here that are over 28 weeks that have not laid yet and this is normal for older stock.  My colors are true too, real deep red necks on my males and not showing the yellow on the females.  Female base color is med  to dark brown not light brown to almost golden like I have seen in other lines.  I will have to take updated pics on my flock.  But I do have pics on thier blog of both original brids and offspring thew the years here.

Tamara   breeding Partridge Plymouth Rocks
owned by 1 dog 2 cats 3 snakes and 1 loving husband
Memeber of ALBC and Plymouth Rock Club
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Tamara   breeding Partridge Plymouth Rocks
owned by 1 dog 2 cats 3 snakes and 1 loving husband
Memeber of ALBC and Plymouth Rock Club
my blog of my chickens   http://bmvchickens.wordpress.com/
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post #257 of 519

I don't know of his quality (or lackthereof) but my rooster (cockerel actually) I've been posting photos of is from Meyer's stock, in case it helps anyone.

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Okay, so sounds like a no go with MM. I'd really like to go through a breeder over a hatchery, but that might not work... we'll see. I guess if it does not I'll look into Mt. Healthy a little more. Thanks guys! Does anyone have any advice for me for starting out? What should I look for in my first year? Obviously I won't be able to get all the traits I want in the first year, but which are the most important to look for in the beggining? Is color the most important, or egg production, temperament? Thank you so much for all the great info I've been getting!!!

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Originally Posted by poultryluvr18 

Okay, so sounds like a no go with MM. I'd really like to go through a breeder over a hatchery, but that might not work... we'll see. I guess if it does not I'll look into Mt. Healthy a little more. Thanks guys! Does anyone have any advice for me for starting out? What should I look for in my first year? Obviously I won't be able to get all the traits I want in the first year, but which are the most important to look for in the beggining? Is color the most important, or egg production, temperament? Thank you so much for all the great info I've been getting!!!


I would suggest buying from a breeder then you have much less work the pattern is tough enough without having to worry about type saves you time and money in the long run. Having bought PR's from 2 hatcheries and then from a breeder let me tell you there really is no comparison. My hatchery ones laid eggs just fine but the size was way off and there were lots of color faults, stubs and white feather tips. They were still beautiful birds but my breeder ones lay eggs just as well are the correct size and color and much more substantial much more of a dual purpose bird. I plan on showing mine and learning how to keep breeding them up I'm just farther up the ladder in quality to start by far

It costs less to have the very best. Trying to raise Delawares and Marans I also have Silver Penciled Rocks New Hampshires Midget Whites Bourbons and Royal Palms......home of many APHA horses. Breeder of World Champions and Honor Roll Champions and High Point winners. I love to trail ride and camp with my friends.
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It costs less to have the very best. Trying to raise Delawares and Marans I also have Silver Penciled Rocks New Hampshires Midget Whites Bourbons and Royal Palms......home of many APHA horses. Breeder of World Champions and Honor Roll Champions and High Point winners. I love to trail ride and camp with my friends.
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celebratecelebratecelebratecelebratecelebratecelebratecelebrate There are 5 hatched so far and 3 or 4 more coming out weeweeweeweeweeweewee so exited, Now I cant wait till I can hatch from these birds laugiglol I officially have the hatching bug. I still have 20 or so eggs still in incubation jumpyjumpyjumpy . Cant wait for the rest of them to come out . thumbsup

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"God didn't promise days without pain, laughter without sorrow, sun without rain, but He did promise strength for the day, comfort for the tears, and light for the way." author unknown

 

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