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post #1 of 10
3/7/11 at 7:23am
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I have some Questions about Shamos.  I have searched seveal sites and they had some good info however I still have some questions

Do shamos FLY ?
I know they can be rooster aggressive, am I better off to make sure they can not see another rooster also, solid walls part way up on the pen.
I plan on housing them in a Six foot tall covered dog kennel it has bird netting over the pen.   any special consideration for housing perches ect ? 
Greenfire farms had a chick special $129 for 12 chicks and 3 of the ones I got are Shamo
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/38899_100_1364.jpg
DH is thrilled to be raising dinosaurs

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Current Residents : Me, DH, DD age 8 and chicken crazy, , 1 catahoula, 1 chihuahua, 1 pitbull 5 cats, 4 horses, 3 guineas, Seramas, Silver Sussex. Coronation Sussex, Polish, East Indies  Drowning in Ducks  NPIP 43-696

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post #2 of 10
3/7/11 at 8:32am

I am amusing that you are talking about Large Fowl Shamo.

As for flying I would say no.
Here is some information I found on Shamo off of Ultimate Fowl Wiki site.

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Originally Posted by Ultimate Fowl Wiki 

KEEPING SHAMO

The main thing to remember when keeping Shamo is that they should mature slowly. A bird of either sex is not adult until about two years old. The stag of ten months will look a different bird after another year. The problems this can bring are: The bones can develop slower than the body mass, so if the bird is fed too much protein and/or does not have enough fresh air and exercise as he grows, his body will get too heavy for his legs and result in serious leg problems. For the same reason, the breastbone can become bent if a young bird rests on too narrow a perch, and the legs and feet can become damaged from jumping down from too high a perch. Adult birds continue to need wide perches to accommodate long legs and bodies.
Stags and pullets can run happily together when young, but as soon as they start to mature, maybe as late as seven or eight months old in bigger birds, they can turn on each other. Stags and pullets can quickly kill each other. So low protein food and lots of fresh air and exercise; wide, low perches, or none at all; and vigilance at all times re separating birds as soon as necessary.

Despite the aggressive, arrogant bearing, they should be calm and confident with their keepers and easy to handle. The aggression should only be towards other birds. Birds may well occasionally greet their keeper with a friendly peck, but this is certainly not man-fighting!


Chris

 

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NPIP # 31-516
Society for the Preservation of Poultry Antiquities http://sppa.webs.com/

Breeding Large Fowl Single and Rose Comb Rhode Island Reds to APA Standard


"I know of no pursuit in which more real and important services can be rendered to any country than by improving its agriculture, its breed of useful animals, and other branches of a husbandman's cares." – 

George Washington

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post #3 of 10
3/7/11 at 10:44pm

I have both Shamo and Aseel.  Even the chicks can turn on each other.  If the stags get out you could have a massacre on your hands.  I do have other roos walk up to Shamo pens and there is lots of fists flying, I have now discouraged that with more fencing.  Then pullets will also severely injure or hurt each other.  Not a breed for the inexpereinced or faint of heart.  Should be raised up the way you want to keep them...best IMHO is just a hen and stag...or if youre lucky a trio. NEVER encourage them to be mean to people or you will really have a problem....they are might and muscle and can put a hurt on most anything.  Flying is not an issue.

Owner of Redneck Chik'ns.  Serving the Tampa Bay Area with Backyard Chickens, purebred pullets and chicks!  AKC pugs and mini horses and chicken art avail. from time to time.  Personal interests are in Seramas, Sebrights, Mini RIRs, Turkens (NNs) and WLRC-WTB KO SHAMO and more SERAMAS, older hubby wanted, send pics of tools.  And I tell it like it is folks..no chicken diapers HERE! lol
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Owner of Redneck Chik'ns.  Serving the Tampa Bay Area with Backyard Chickens, purebred pullets and chicks!  AKC pugs and mini horses and chicken art avail. from time to time.  Personal interests are in Seramas, Sebrights, Mini RIRs, Turkens (NNs) and WLRC-WTB KO SHAMO and more SERAMAS, older hubby wanted, send pics of tools.  And I tell it like it is folks..no chicken diapers HERE! lol
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post #4 of 10
3/7/11 at 10:45pm

PS-no perches here...totally ground birds.

Owner of Redneck Chik'ns.  Serving the Tampa Bay Area with Backyard Chickens, purebred pullets and chicks!  AKC pugs and mini horses and chicken art avail. from time to time.  Personal interests are in Seramas, Sebrights, Mini RIRs, Turkens (NNs) and WLRC-WTB KO SHAMO and more SERAMAS, older hubby wanted, send pics of tools.  And I tell it like it is folks..no chicken diapers HERE! lol
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Owner of Redneck Chik'ns.  Serving the Tampa Bay Area with Backyard Chickens, purebred pullets and chicks!  AKC pugs and mini horses and chicken art avail. from time to time.  Personal interests are in Seramas, Sebrights, Mini RIRs, Turkens (NNs) and WLRC-WTB KO SHAMO and more SERAMAS, older hubby wanted, send pics of tools.  And I tell it like it is folks..no chicken diapers HERE! lol
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post #5 of 10
3/7/11 at 10:47pm

Greenfire   eeeek....what were the other chicks???

Owner of Redneck Chik'ns.  Serving the Tampa Bay Area with Backyard Chickens, purebred pullets and chicks!  AKC pugs and mini horses and chicken art avail. from time to time.  Personal interests are in Seramas, Sebrights, Mini RIRs, Turkens (NNs) and WLRC-WTB KO SHAMO and more SERAMAS, older hubby wanted, send pics of tools.  And I tell it like it is folks..no chicken diapers HERE! lol
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Owner of Redneck Chik'ns.  Serving the Tampa Bay Area with Backyard Chickens, purebred pullets and chicks!  AKC pugs and mini horses and chicken art avail. from time to time.  Personal interests are in Seramas, Sebrights, Mini RIRs, Turkens (NNs) and WLRC-WTB KO SHAMO and more SERAMAS, older hubby wanted, send pics of tools.  And I tell it like it is folks..no chicken diapers HERE! lol
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post #6 of 10
3/8/11 at 3:58am
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I also got
2 silver sussex
2 lemon cuckoo orps
2 wheaton marans
3 swedish flower hens
1 tolblunt
3 shamo

I'm very happy with the birds

Muddy Horse Farms where animals and technology collide
Current Residents : Me, DH, DD age 8 and chicken crazy, , 1 catahoula, 1 chihuahua, 1 pitbull 5 cats, 4 horses, 3 guineas, Seramas, Silver Sussex. Coronation Sussex, Polish, East Indies  Drowning in Ducks  NPIP 43-696

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Muddy Horse Farms where animals and technology collide
Current Residents : Me, DH, DD age 8 and chicken crazy, , 1 catahoula, 1 chihuahua, 1 pitbull 5 cats, 4 horses, 3 guineas, Seramas, Silver Sussex. Coronation Sussex, Polish, East Indies  Drowning in Ducks  NPIP 43-696

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post #7 of 10
3/8/11 at 8:45am

They should label the mix "not for beginners" - Having Shamos AND Tolbunt Polish in the mix is going to throw the owner into a need for a lot of difference "special attention care" for the different breeds.

The Shamos you got are Wheaten or Barred Wheaten, so first I can say to you, look for excessive black in the wing feathers for boys. wink Also, barred boys are a little tricky too, so if the bird feathers in at first to look like a blue wheaten, it is a barred boy. Trust me, I know Greenfire's parent Shamos.

As Chris09 quoted/said though. They won't turn on each other until they reach that age to realize they're male and can fight, though. I wouldn't worry until they're probably 4 months or older. But for now, try to keep them from needing to fly up high obstacles, perching on small or high perches, etc. They shouldn't be straining themselves too much, they've got a lot of bone and length in there that needs some room and lack of stress to grow.

Oh, and keep them out of the cold!!

Araucanas, Polish, Shamos

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Araucanas, Polish, Shamos

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post #8 of 10
3/8/11 at 11:47am
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Thanks for the advice big_smile,  We have had polish for 4 years so I'm not going in to the tolblunt thing totally blind.  However, I have never had anything like a Shamo.  I am looking forward to the challange but, I know I can count on my fellow bycers if I have questions.

Muddy Horse Farms where animals and technology collide
Current Residents : Me, DH, DD age 8 and chicken crazy, , 1 catahoula, 1 chihuahua, 1 pitbull 5 cats, 4 horses, 3 guineas, Seramas, Silver Sussex. Coronation Sussex, Polish, East Indies  Drowning in Ducks  NPIP 43-696

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Muddy Horse Farms where animals and technology collide
Current Residents : Me, DH, DD age 8 and chicken crazy, , 1 catahoula, 1 chihuahua, 1 pitbull 5 cats, 4 horses, 3 guineas, Seramas, Silver Sussex. Coronation Sussex, Polish, East Indies  Drowning in Ducks  NPIP 43-696

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post #9 of 10
2/27/12 at 4:25pm

jus put em rooster toegether and never sepearate they wny fite if they do they will stop

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post #10 of 10
2/27/12 at 6:44pm
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Originally Posted by tharooster12 View Post

jus put em rooster toegether and never sepearate they wny fite if they do they will stop

No, shamo roosters will not stop until the death...either of the opposing roosters or themselves. They do not let any other rooster back off and give up. If it does, it is not pure shamo.
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