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post #11 of 17
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Originally Posted by Chickenrandomness 
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All the dogs we've had on the farm we're cured out of chasing the birds after a "come to Jesus" meeting with me.  Our older lab/Australian Shepherd cross we had for about 6 years before I got my first birds.  She thought those 6 little ducklings were for her personal chasing and killing enjoyment.  She learned pretty quickly that she would get in trouble if she chased them when I was around, but then she started sneaking.  So I hid behind the duck pen one day and had my husband let her out.  She immediately "snuck" over to the ducks and when she ran out to attack I jumped out and caught her right in the act.  She got a big spanking, I chased her all over the farm for about 10 minutes and then she got locked up by herself for several days.  She never looked at one of my birds after that.
My new rat terrier puppy also was getting into chasing birds.  Started with little "woo-hoo" runs at them.  Isn't that funny, look at the birds go?  Then he realized the ducks would quickly give up and then he could just kinda sit on them and happily chew their wings up.  Again, I caught him in the act, gave him a good spanking and chased him all around the farm with a several hour time out.  Cured him.
They have to know you're serious and that YOU WILL catch them doing it.  If you have two puppies I would work with them one at a time, especially a ringleader.  It's a serious issue however.  Nothing worse than a "pack" of neighborhood dogs that will run around and kills whatever they can find.


i've done something similar once:

i got my camera some fresh batterys, so i decided on a chicken photo shoot. i had the chickens and the pups outside (thats when i trusted them). Sydney, the blue heelers, greets me at the door. we walk together until i get half way to the barn. i hear the most blood curtling scream i've ever heard. i start to jog toward the barn, just when Nate, my banty standard mix flys outside onto another building right by the barn fallowed by Nikki, my aussie. i let her know shes never to do that again. i would have spanked her, but she made sure she had some distance from me. i yelled until my throught hurt. i then gave her the leash treatment; i put her on a leash everytime i went to the barn, until i got annoyed at chasing her down to put the leash on her. now both pups arn't alowed in the barn.

a few days ago, i had an idea. i cracked open the barn door just enough and put some wood over part of the opening. the hole was just big enought for my brahma hen to go through. just the other day, i find Sydney pushing the door open and going through sad

and just today i went in the barn to see the chickens. i left the door a bit open because its hard to pen and close the barn door from the inside. the chickens REALLY wanted outside, so my brahma hen steps outside. it only took 30 seconds before i heard nervous clucking followed by her speed walking inside. looks like Sydney rubbed off of Nikki, because Sydney was right outside.



i'm not looking for all this elaberate training things, when i told my dad i wanted a puppy, i wanted either a small herding dog (such as the corgi) or a large teddy bear dog like the mastif or St. bernard, but no, my dad wanted me to get a dog like a collie or border collie. i was ok with it until Nikki got into chasing chickens. now i almost don't want her. i never asked for a problem dog! he
i've already lost a pullet to a dog before, i don't want that happening again! barnie


I think you just need to realize they are in that "lilttle kid" stage and be willing to take time and patience to work with them.  If you enforce the rules and boundaries in a couple months they will now what is expected and it won't be a problem.  It was only a few months ago now that I had the latest problem with my puppy (he would have been about 5 months at the time) and now he is doing very well with the birds.  I just watched him today "playing" with my turkeys.  Hilarious.  BTW, I also couldn't "catch" my puppy (he is SUPER quick) when he was being naughty.  He would just run away from me yelling and act like "...whatever, you can't catch me! na-na-na."  The day I finally got him, he was sitting on a duck chewing on her wing.  I walked up to him very friendly like and he was all happy, wagging tail.  So I was able get close enough to grab him and really give him a spanking.  That made an impression let me tell you!
I do like what somebody posted on here with the saying "no" and walking between them and the bird.  It really is about making them think you are the top dog.

post #12 of 17
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Originally Posted by Chickenrandomness 

The Duck ABC's :

You have to control the puppies until they are older, plus training 2 puppies is kind of hard.  I have 4 hunting dogs at all ages.  One is a blue heeler/Australian shepherd mix.  She tried to do the herding/controlling thing when she was younger.  We trained her on the command "Not Yours".  She knows it by heart now and will not do what she had in mind if we tell her not to.  She still has the strong drive doing so, but obeys us.  We also socialize all our dogs to the birds from early on.  They are allowed to sniff the birds from day 2 on with us watching.  They have come to understand that the birds are part of the pack and that they have to be protected.  All 4 dogs now roam with the birds and no hunting or chasing.  The only bird I have to watch out for is our 2.5 week old gosling.  He triggers the instincts in the 2 female dogs, but it will be over with once he is a little bit bigger.  We now take him for walks into the meadow with all the dogs.  We still have to watch the female dogs, but they are getting it.  Another week and they will not care.  Sammy is our young dog at 1.5 years now.  Even he learned from puppy age on that the birds are family.  Socialization is the key, but in a controlled way.


They know that they arn't allowed in the barn, and chase the chickens, i make sure they know it, but they don't listen


You may say they know it, But when you say they don't listen, You are admiting that they Don't Know it! Maybe they know that it is bad to get caught chasing chickens so they become sneakly about it. When they really know not to chase chickens, they won't chase them anytime if you are home or long gone!

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post #13 of 17

If you have a bird that is willing to be near them, put a spot on your pups nose, hold the chicken and let them smell the bird, but make sure the chicken is looking at the pup so that she sees the spot and tries to peck it! Hopefully she lands a good hit and your dogs shouldn't go after the chickens any more, (may take a few tries to get the message through). We did this with our dog, she never looked at them again lol. This works on cats too with chicks that they might consider eating, we have 7 cats and our chicks can run around freely because the cats run away from them!!

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post #14 of 17

I've always found a big, fat, angry mama hen to be the best puppy training tool. With your supervision, or course wink.png

 

ETA: I have held puppies down (or locked them in) and let the hen repeatedly attack until the puppy is squalling and trying to get away. A couple times of that and they don't go anywhere near the chickens.

post #15 of 17

I train all my dogs the “leave it command” at a young age, I also never play chasing game or tug a war with my dogs. that being said I have 2 male ganders who’s pen surrounds my chicken coop. my dogs run away when they see the geese. They also have warned me when we has stray dogs are on the property and I live up the road from my farm. I think they are great warning alarms and a hissing goose might scare your pups away from the area

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post #16 of 17
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i've done something similar once:

i got my camera some fresh batterys, so i decided on a chicken photo shoot. i had the chickens and the pups outside (thats when i trusted them). Sydney, the blue heelers, greets me at the door. we walk together until i get half way to the barn. i hear the most blood curtling scream i've ever heard. i start to jog toward the barn, just when Nate, my banty standard mix flys outside onto another building right by the barn fallowed by Nikki, my aussie. i let her know shes never to do that again. i would have spanked her, but she made sure she had some distance from me. i yelled until my throught hurt. i then gave her the leash treatment; i put her on a leash everytime i went to the barn, until i got annoyed at chasing her down to put the leash on her. now both pups arn't alowed in the barn.

a few days ago, i had an idea. i cracked open the barn door just enough and put some wood over part of the opening. the hole was just big enought for my brahma hen to go through. just the other day, i find Sydney pushing the door open and going through sad

and just today i went in the barn to see the chickens. i left the door a bit open because its hard to pen and close the barn door from the inside. the chickens REALLY wanted outside, so my brahma hen steps outside. it only took 30 seconds before i heard nervous clucking followed by her speed walking inside. looks like Sydney rubbed off of Nikki, because Sydney was right outside.



i'm not looking for all this elaberate training things, when i told my dad i wanted a puppy, i wanted either a small herding dog (such as the corgi) or a large teddy bear dog like the mastif or St. bernard, but no, my dad wanted me to get a dog like a collie or border collie. i was ok with it until Nikki got into chasing chickens. now i almost don't want her. i never asked for a problem dog! he
i've already lost a pullet to a dog before, i don't want that happening again! barnie


I like Duckles method, Milan knows his stuff and I think that training would work wonders. but it has to be taught every day multiple times.
 

 

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Living in the Beautiful Mountains of Western N.C.. with 23 chickens= EE's, Game, Cochin bantams,Light Brahma, 7 Black Australorps 13Muscovy ducks, 1Embden Gander,1 Toulouse goose, 3 mini Dachshunds, 1 mixed breed, pond goldfish,  and a wonderful Husband who makes it all possible..♥

 



 

 

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post #17 of 17
I have an Aussie and a Border Collie/Husky mix. When I first got the chickens a few years ago, they were both 4. They have always been very interested in chicks, and when I let the first batch of chicks out' for their first run in the grass, I left them alone for a moment. When I returned, I found a chick that had been nosed - it had a tiny tear in its skin and it was swollen - they just nosed it hard. I grabbed the first dog I could get (the Aussie) and dragged her across the driveway and showed her the chick and told her it was not hers to mess with. Never had a problem since, until my newest rooster got big last summer. Now the Aussie and the roo (a Black Orpington) spar if they get too close.

The chickens see the dogs as part of me. When we go out to feed, the dogs are usually in the lead due to rabbits under the barn that they want to investigate. The chickens run out to greet all of us, and then they will follow the dogs. Sadly, because they were used to dogs, when the neighbor's dog came over all the tame ones were killed. Now they no longer free range, and I am planning to get a couple geese to help warn us. My big roo, Jack, now alerts to the dogs' presence. They don't run away or freak out about the dogs but they do consider them worth watching now.

The training of the young pups takes a bit longer as they lack impulse control. It will be worth the time, though. Once they are trained they can be an asset. My dogs let me know when there's a problem with the chickens. Once a hawk struck and missed, and the dogs let me know it was out there. When I opened the door, they shot out and chased the hawk across our front field until it left the property. The border collie/husky considers the chickens her job. The one thing I wish they would do is help me herd the chickens when they get out, but that early training has stuck. When I need help with wayward chickens, I park the dogs in a sit/stay and work with them that way. It often works quite well.

Typing with a two-week old chick on my chest is not working well. It thinks my typing fingers are pecking and keeps running over to the keyboard of the laptop and pecking along with me. Too light to press the keys, but big enough to get in the way.

1 wonderful understanding DH, 1 aussie, 1 bc/husky, 1 cat, the United Nations of 36 or so chickens, including a 2 week old Blue/Buff orpington chick in the house

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