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I'm conceptualizing 101 Quail on 2+ Acres.

I know about the stickies, and the quail pen thread, and have seen the Quail/Droid wars (some below),

Quail 100 http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=102281 

Quail Books http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=331466

Quail Breeders Directory http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=460102

Quail Feed http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=486090

Quail Pens http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=280575

Quail Processing- Graphic Pics http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=147712&p=1

Quail (Beer) Sexing http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=6263982

Quail Egg Shipping http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=563667

Bird Anatomy Illustrations:
http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/galleries/animals/birds_anatomy.php
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=10845


that being said;

Serious advice will only be considered if it comes with a "bit of wit", i.e., this could be your place to help with my automatic "catfood/dogfood" dispensers, "multi-species" dwellings, and "free-range" theories.
You have "Moby Quail"? enquiring minds want to know.

If you think misting the birds 24/7 with ACV makes them more tender, I'm not chicken!
If you think letting them eat corn bread stuffing for a last meal, means you don't have to gut them before cooking, I'm not chicken!
If you think crossing a quail with an ameraucana or an americana will get you green speckled platypus eggs, I'm not chicken!
If you think there should be more organization to the Quail bloodlines and pedigrees, I'm not chicken!

Rules of QuailShaQ 101
1. We do not talk about Quail as if they are a smaller version of something else.
2. We do not talk about QuailShaQ.
3. You can bring the heat here. (in as much as allowed by Mods)
4. All fingers and mouths are pointed down-range, but automatic fire is allowed.
5. Mr. Johnny Cash's music is played here, Hank sometimes opens for him.
6. We do not pander on QuailShaQ wink

edited- to add more links and rules and thread name change...


Edited by MobyQuail - 8/28/11 at 9:32am

 

Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon and the truth. ~ Buddha

 

Check out our Jumbo Coturnix "Meat Quail" project on BYC and @ http://www.whitequail.com

 

I feed and stare at Coturnix Giganticus, Wheaten Ameraucanas and NZ/Chinchilla Rabbits

 

2012 FWC Game Farm License #406-81335; 2012 A.P.A Member; I do not sell eggs or birds.

 

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Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon and the truth. ~ Buddha

 

Check out our Jumbo Coturnix "Meat Quail" project on BYC and @ http://www.whitequail.com

 

I feed and stare at Coturnix Giganticus, Wheaten Ameraucanas and NZ/Chinchilla Rabbits

 

2012 FWC Game Farm License #406-81335; 2012 A.P.A Member; I do not sell eggs or birds.

 

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post #2 of 739
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Feed:

I will be feeding them 99% by volume, FRM GBS, Flint River Mills Game Bird Starter.
GBS is strongly recommended, I have read countless threads.
FRM is what I can find in my area.
They will all get a little "wild turkey" before freezer camp.

 

Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon and the truth. ~ Buddha

 

Check out our Jumbo Coturnix "Meat Quail" project on BYC and @ http://www.whitequail.com

 

I feed and stare at Coturnix Giganticus, Wheaten Ameraucanas and NZ/Chinchilla Rabbits

 

2012 FWC Game Farm License #406-81335; 2012 A.P.A Member; I do not sell eggs or birds.

 

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Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon and the truth. ~ Buddha

 

Check out our Jumbo Coturnix "Meat Quail" project on BYC and @ http://www.whitequail.com

 

I feed and stare at Coturnix Giganticus, Wheaten Ameraucanas and NZ/Chinchilla Rabbits

 

2012 FWC Game Farm License #406-81335; 2012 A.P.A Member; I do not sell eggs or birds.

 

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post #3 of 739

Mine gets a 4 week treatment of game bird starter followed by a 2 weeks of game bird conditioner for freezer material or fed game bird layer after the 4 weeks of game bird starter if they are replacement stock. <---- coturnix quail.. bobs get the GBS for 8 weeks.

I also have my own mix that a local feed mill will make when I'm in full swing and can use 1000 lbs+ in 2-3 weeks.. I can't remember the exact mix, but can get it if anyone needs it.. Just a note, This is not a mix that will save you a buck on 50 lbs, it's a good mix thats a little higher than game bird feed.. but I gain a weeks worth of growing at 7 weeks of age, this in turn saves time and money as you get better growth on the same amount of money!

Silkies, Cornish bantams, Large Fowl mixes, Coturnix, Bobwhite quail, Chukars, pheasants.. Always looking for something new to hatch!
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Silkies, Cornish bantams, Large Fowl mixes, Coturnix, Bobwhite quail, Chukars, pheasants.. Always looking for something new to hatch!
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post #4 of 739
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Housing:

I am thinking 4 pens of birds- 3x8x1 or 4x8x1 about 4 feet off the ground, 20 feet apart, shaded by live oak trees.
I will use 2x4 construction and half inch hardware cloth. I will roof the pen with metal or corrugated fiber roofing.
The birds will be about 2-3 weeks apart in age and at the recommended 1 sq. ft/ per bird, I can house ~25 per pen.
obviously, the pens will be "double-wide".

 

Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon and the truth. ~ Buddha

 

Check out our Jumbo Coturnix "Meat Quail" project on BYC and @ http://www.whitequail.com

 

I feed and stare at Coturnix Giganticus, Wheaten Ameraucanas and NZ/Chinchilla Rabbits

 

2012 FWC Game Farm License #406-81335; 2012 A.P.A Member; I do not sell eggs or birds.

 

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Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon and the truth. ~ Buddha

 

Check out our Jumbo Coturnix "Meat Quail" project on BYC and @ http://www.whitequail.com

 

I feed and stare at Coturnix Giganticus, Wheaten Ameraucanas and NZ/Chinchilla Rabbits

 

2012 FWC Game Farm License #406-81335; 2012 A.P.A Member; I do not sell eggs or birds.

 

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post #5 of 739

Sounds like a workable plan. Do you hope to go into full blown bird farming, stocking the freezer or just cuz? I like quail and my numbers are just under 100 for no other reason than "just cuz".... lol

 

An Indian says you search in vain for what you cannot find. He says you've found a thousand ways of runnin' down your time. An Indian didn't scream it; he said it in a song. And he's never been know to be wrong..   Jeremiah Johnson

 

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An Indian says you search in vain for what you cannot find. He says you've found a thousand ways of runnin' down your time. An Indian didn't scream it; he said it in a song. And he's never been know to be wrong..   Jeremiah Johnson

 

Butler Bobs, Chukar, Albino Chukar, Blue slate turkey, Black Copper Marans, Buff Orpingtons, LF Gold Laced Cochins, Gambel's Quail, Blue scale Quail, New...

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post #6 of 739
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat Daddy 

Sounds like a workable plan. Do you hope to go into full blown bird farming, stocking the freezer or just cuz? I like quail and my numbers are just under 100 for no other reason than "just cuz".... lol


starting small, simple and with quality stock. 50 birds to start, splitting them up with a friend, we will keep some of the the best to breed and see what happens. the rest are going into his smoker when processed.
no bird farm, just hobby farm for smoker and eggs. majored in physiology and nutrition, I like the idea of controlled diets for the birds and me, etc.
and yup, just cuz, got no kids, lotsa time, and need something outside the office to keep my simple mind occupied.

I built the farm for the chickens at my friends nursery (pics on my byc page), now my moms acreage is starting to look very quailicious...and it is a blank slate.

 

Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon and the truth. ~ Buddha

 

Check out our Jumbo Coturnix "Meat Quail" project on BYC and @ http://www.whitequail.com

 

I feed and stare at Coturnix Giganticus, Wheaten Ameraucanas and NZ/Chinchilla Rabbits

 

2012 FWC Game Farm License #406-81335; 2012 A.P.A Member; I do not sell eggs or birds.

 

.

Reply

 

Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon and the truth. ~ Buddha

 

Check out our Jumbo Coturnix "Meat Quail" project on BYC and @ http://www.whitequail.com

 

I feed and stare at Coturnix Giganticus, Wheaten Ameraucanas and NZ/Chinchilla Rabbits

 

2012 FWC Game Farm License #406-81335; 2012 A.P.A Member; I do not sell eggs or birds.

 

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post #7 of 739
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Originally Posted by model_A_tractor 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat Daddy 

Sounds like a workable plan. Do you hope to go into full blown bird farming, stocking the freezer or just cuz? I like quail and my numbers are just under 100 for no other reason than "just cuz".... lol


starting small, simple and with quality stock. 50 birds to start, splitting them up with a friend, we will keep some of the the best to breed and see what happens. the rest are going into his smoker when processed.
no bird farm, just hobby farm for smoker and eggs. majored in physiology and nutrition, I like the idea of controlled diets for the birds and me, etc.
and yup, just cuz, got no kids, lotsa time, and need something outside the office to keep my simple mind occupied.

I built the farm for the chickens at my friends nursery (pics on my byc page), now my moms acreage is starting to look very quailicious...and it is a blank slate.


YEP THATS HOW IT STARTS USUALLY....

I'm Not Yelling!... Thanx Anyway, But Its The Best Way For Me To Read The Print On The Screen.....LF Cochins, SERAMA, RINGNECK AND RUFFED PHEASANTS, MEL. MUTANT RINGNECKS, BLUE SLATE TURKEYS, MALLARDS, WOOD DUCKS, ROUENS, BUTLER BOB WHITES, COTURNIX. PM ME FOR EGG AVAILABILITIES!
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I'm Not Yelling!... Thanx Anyway, But Its The Best Way For Me To Read The Print On The Screen.....LF Cochins, SERAMA, RINGNECK AND RUFFED PHEASANTS, MEL. MUTANT RINGNECKS, BLUE SLATE TURKEYS, MALLARDS, WOOD DUCKS, ROUENS, BUTLER BOB WHITES, COTURNIX. PM ME FOR EGG AVAILABILITIES!
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post #8 of 739
Thread Starter 

oh boy... big_smile

 

Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon and the truth. ~ Buddha

 

Check out our Jumbo Coturnix "Meat Quail" project on BYC and @ http://www.whitequail.com

 

I feed and stare at Coturnix Giganticus, Wheaten Ameraucanas and NZ/Chinchilla Rabbits

 

2012 FWC Game Farm License #406-81335; 2012 A.P.A Member; I do not sell eggs or birds.

 

.

Reply

 

Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon and the truth. ~ Buddha

 

Check out our Jumbo Coturnix "Meat Quail" project on BYC and @ http://www.whitequail.com

 

I feed and stare at Coturnix Giganticus, Wheaten Ameraucanas and NZ/Chinchilla Rabbits

 

2012 FWC Game Farm License #406-81335; 2012 A.P.A Member; I do not sell eggs or birds.

 

.

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when I was a kid, I worked in a pet store. we had a contract with a reptile vendor to supply them with mice.

I was about 14, I eventually had over 50- ten gallon tanks with 7-8 mice in each one, water bottle, feed and top.
I was amazed that I could start with all white lab mice and 2-3 generations later end up with the craziest colors.
At that time, I was breeding for whatever I wanted-  being 14, one week it was silver color, then the next time it was all black..
I may have been line breeding or in breeding, didnt know what it was called then. long time ago...

http://bowlingsite.mcf.com/genetics/inbreeding.html

 

Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon and the truth. ~ Buddha

 

Check out our Jumbo Coturnix "Meat Quail" project on BYC and @ http://www.whitequail.com

 

I feed and stare at Coturnix Giganticus, Wheaten Ameraucanas and NZ/Chinchilla Rabbits

 

2012 FWC Game Farm License #406-81335; 2012 A.P.A Member; I do not sell eggs or birds.

 

.

Reply

 

Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon and the truth. ~ Buddha

 

Check out our Jumbo Coturnix "Meat Quail" project on BYC and @ http://www.whitequail.com

 

I feed and stare at Coturnix Giganticus, Wheaten Ameraucanas and NZ/Chinchilla Rabbits

 

2012 FWC Game Farm License #406-81335; 2012 A.P.A Member; I do not sell eggs or birds.

 

.

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post #10 of 739
Quote:
Originally Posted by model_A_tractor 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat Daddy 

Sounds like a workable plan. Do you hope to go into full blown bird farming, stocking the freezer or just cuz? I like quail and my numbers are just under 100 for no other reason than "just cuz".... lol


starting small, simple and with quality stock. 50 birds to start, splitting them up with a friend, we will keep some of the the best to breed and see what happens. the rest are going into his smoker when processed.
no bird farm, just hobby farm for smoker and eggs. majored in physiology and nutrition, I like the idea of controlled diets for the birds and me, etc.
and yup, just cuz, got no kids, lotsa time, and need something outside the office to keep my simple mind occupied.

I built the farm for the chickens at my friends nursery (pics on my byc page), now my moms acreage is starting to look very quailicious...and it is a blank slate.


Sounds like my kinda deal, no real plan. I'm gonna send in the breeder permit soon, but dont really figure on sell'in much. There again just cuz... wink

 

An Indian says you search in vain for what you cannot find. He says you've found a thousand ways of runnin' down your time. An Indian didn't scream it; he said it in a song. And he's never been know to be wrong..   Jeremiah Johnson

 

Butler Bobs, Chukar, Albino Chukar, Blue slate turkey, Black Copper Marans, Buff Orpingtons, LF Gold Laced Cochins, Gambel's Quail, Blue scale Quail, New...

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An Indian says you search in vain for what you cannot find. He says you've found a thousand ways of runnin' down your time. An Indian didn't scream it; he said it in a song. And he's never been know to be wrong..   Jeremiah Johnson

 

Butler Bobs, Chukar, Albino Chukar, Blue slate turkey, Black Copper Marans, Buff Orpingtons, LF Gold Laced Cochins, Gambel's Quail, Blue scale Quail, New...

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