I do love playing with the calculator. I have found that the images it puts up don't do a very good job of matching the real chicks I have hatched when I have done mixes and start combining genes--just my observation on what I have done. Not enough nuances available. The image it created above does look like a solid black upper and a tan/buff lower chicken. I think the photos you have provided are very interesting and you can see the layered subtleties. They appear to be a very dark brown color with almost what looks like some black lacing. Quite pretty, actually.
Here are a few angles of that girl I had mentioned previously that I think is overly melanized and could be a candidate for Ml/Ml. She is Gigi (Clara's grand daughter) and her mom Goldie is pictured next to her in one of the photos showing the breast. She has some melanized breast tipping, especially coming in from the sides. I think that the description in the SOP that says well defined breast was trying to eliminate this type of bleeding of melanin from the body. To me, she is a very good representation of grey in the body instead of my more common taupe/mousy color I seem to have, but at a cost. Her hackles are dark and there is not much contrast between the body and the hackles. If you removed the barred dappling from strong barring, I suspect that you would end up with a color that is very similar to the photos you posted.
For those who don't know, Clara (pictured below) is the hen I hatched from eggs via a breeder in CA who got his original stock from Jordan family Farms. JFF has since dispersed their stock. Some folk on FB have commented that they felt that line was overly melanized. I think that she is a nice girl, although she lacks the contrast in the hackles I would like to see and seems to have 'wimpy' barring. I was on the fence with her on her dilution status, and it turns out that she throws non-cream offspring when bred to cream-expressing roosters. She is one of my favorites, thought. She doesn't exhibit the melanin breast tipping so this melanizer may not be Ml after all, or this is how Ml/ml looks.
It just shows how much variation you can have in three generations of Cream Legbars with regard to color and pattern. As you have said before, Chickat, they are a kaleidoscope of ever-changing colors. I am trying to focus on type more than color at this point to build a better Cream Legbar. Gigi has decent type but has inherited too much underfluff from the Rooster line and so she looks unbalanced to my eye. I haven't hatched anything from her and may not breed her.
Intertesting. If I may, I'd like to post pictures of Paula here again, in the context of this specific conversation and the photos posted above. Chick pics, and then POL pics, which were my most recent. I got her from My Pet Chicken, via Meyer - which is where I got the other two, which look very similar to each other but not really like her. (She died from Marek's about a month or so ago at roughly 35 weeks old, but I have five 10 week old pullets that I hatched out from her and Dumbledore. And a cockerel, though I have no idea which one is hers...)
Paula is on the right in this photo:
Paula is on the left tin this photo:
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Edited by Fire Ant Farm - 4/18/16 at 11:08am