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I'm from Poland... but I guess you asking where I live smile.png 
I live in Thailand do when you happen to be on holiday one day you are more then welcome to visit me on my small farm wink.png
I think they call them here Mongol chicken big_smile.png I don't know why but I saw some Thai chicken keepers calling similar roosters like that - but theirs have usually red ish comb.
I love pay a visit someday:)...I'm originally from Thailand before moving to the USA as a kid.

From what I undertstand, in Thailand, they have 3 different types of black meat chickens. There are ka dam phuphan, Yunnan silkies and black Mongolian. The Yunnan and black Mongolian looka similar and have straight combs and a body more similar to the layer type of chickens, while the ka dam phuphan has thai gamefowl influenced and are for the majority are pea comb and more gamefowl in phenotype.

The more reddish comb can be that they have less of the fibro-melonisis genes. Even yours trio with darker combs will produce some offspring with reddish/mulberry colored combs.

And since you're now living in Thailand, you have a better chance to obtain some really Indonesia ayam cemani. I've seen some nice ones on FB of ayam Cemani in Thailand. I think the majority of Cemani and other chicken farmers are in northern Thailand, like Chang Mai, Chang Rai,Nakhon and surrounding areas?
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I love pay a visit someday:)...I'm originally from Thailand before moving to the USA as a kid.

From what I undertstand, in Thailand, they have 3 different types of black meat chickens. There are ka dam phuphan, Yunnan silkies and black Mongolian. The Yunnan and black Mongolian looka similar and have straight combs and a body more similar to the layer type of chickens, while the ka dam phuphan has thai gamefowl influenced and are for the majority are pea comb and more gamefowl in phenotype.

The more reddish comb can be that they have less of the fibro-melonisis genes. Even yours trio with darker combs will produce some offspring with reddish/mulberry colored combs.

And since you're now living in Thailand, you have a better chance to obtain some really Indonesia ayam cemani. I've seen some nice ones on FB of ayam Cemani in Thailand. I think the majority of Cemani and other chicken farmers are in northern Thailand, like Chang Mai, Chang Rai,Nakhon and surrounding areas?

I live in North of Thailand in Phayao (exactly between Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai) and I have Ayam Cemani already - 5 hens and 1 rooster :) Black like hell itself :) not even small sign of colour on their feathers :) 

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I live in North of Thailand in Phayao (exactly between Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai) and I have Ayam Cemani already - 5 hens and 1 rooster smile.png Black like hell itself smile.png not even small sign of colour on their feathers smile.png 
That's awesome....you got the real deal smile.png....we here have settle for the European imported stocks and these can't compared....even their looks have changed too...majority of European ayam Cemani are soft feathers/fluffy and have a body more similar to layer type of chickens, rather than the gamier body type of real Indonesian stocks.

My guess is that once imported into Europe, thet may have been crossed with ?

Love to see pictures if you don't mind sharing them of your ayam Cemani
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That's awesome....you got the real deal smile.png....we here have settle for the European imported stocks and these can't compared....even their looks have changed too...majority of European ayam Cemani are soft feathers/fluffy and have a body more similar to layer type of chickens, rather than the gamier body type of real Indonesian stocks.

My guess is that once imported into Europe, thet may have been crossed with ?

Love to see pictures if you don't mind sharing them of your ayam Cemani

Here they are :D

They are still young - only 4 months old but growing very nice and beautiful... and I'm not in rush ;)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #365 of 365
Thank you...they are beautiful...there is an ayam Cemani thread on this forum...you should post on there too
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