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Wouldn't It be cool to have a whole flock of cemani morph ohiki?
I notice Jenn's cemani morph's wing formula is that of G. varius.
Interesting phenomenon of what specific traits unique to the green junglefowl are being expressed in the domestic  sport ? If it were possible to breed a male zebra to a female Percheron and produce fertile offspring- and a mutation for say red stripes hypothetically- this mutation unique to this zebra species has been transferred to the hybrid progeny. If one gender of that hybrid is fertile and bred back to a Percheron and paired back to the mother offspring are produced - some exhibiting the red stripe mutation but now it's a red hide with only a few dark bands on the legs and the rest of the animal is the same colour of the red stripe with the marbeling of the Percheron underneath. Now we've got a creature that looks very similar to the common ancestor of the horse. This phenotype is then transferred through selective breeding on to successive generations of artificial selection always improving upon some hue or pigmentation or patterning for many generations. At the very end the progeny are still carrying what mutations unique to the zebra versus the Percheron -?
How about a zebra mane- its been dominant all along together with those black stripes at the hock and knee- but in this impossible hybrid the wethers and sweet disposition of the Percheron along with its size are always present at well.

When I see the primary and secondary flight feathers together with the alula - in these dragon bones and cemani - you see the morphology of the green junglefowl- it's literally sea worthy wing.
Green junglefowl are island hoppers from bali to Komodo to Flores to Timor - you see them flying out over the sea through the wind and choppy waves heading for some desert isle.
One of thousands strung through Wallacea.
If it exists in this lineage of fowl one wonders if this trait is primitive character typical an ancient ancestor of all junglefowl.
This wing type is typical for many of the other subfamilies of the Gallusinid family tree. No other junglefowl shares that wing formula but there are francolin that do.

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Chabo (Japanese Bantam) Black Head Black Rooster
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Chabo (Japanese Bantam) Black Head Black Hen
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chris

 

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Breeding Large Fowl Single and Rose Comb Rhode Island Reds to APA Standard


"I know of no pursuit in which more real and important services can be rendered to any country than by improving its agriculture, its breed of useful animals, and other branches of a husbandman's cares." – 

George Washington

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No way! How awesome is that!

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No way! How awesome is that!


I thought the something when I saw them.

Chris

 

NPIP # 31-516
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Breeding Large Fowl Single and Rose Comb Rhode Island Reds to APA Standard


"I know of no pursuit in which more real and important services can be rendered to any country than by improving its agriculture, its breed of useful animals, and other branches of a husbandman's cares." – 

George Washington

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NPIP # 31-516
Society for the Preservation of Poultry Antiquities http://sppa.webs.com/

Breeding Large Fowl Single and Rose Comb Rhode Island Reds to APA Standard


"I know of no pursuit in which more real and important services can be rendered to any country than by improving its agriculture, its breed of useful animals, and other branches of a husbandman's cares." – 

George Washington

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Originally Posted by Chris09 

Chabo (Japanese Bantam) Black Head Black Rooster
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/33115_450px-chabo_zwartkop_zwart_haan.jpg
Chabo (Japanese Bantam) Black Head Black Hen
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/33115_450px-chabo_zwartkop_zwart_hen.jpg

Not my birds



chris


So I'm guessing these are not in the states?

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Originally Posted by Chris09 

Chabo (Japanese Bantam) Black Head Black Rooster
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/33115_450px-chabo_zwartkop_zwart_haan.jpg
Chabo (Japanese Bantam) Black Head Black Hen
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/33115_450px-chabo_zwartkop_zwart_hen.jpg

Not my birds



chris


So I'm guessing these are not in the states?


They are not,
I found them on a German web page.

Chris

 

NPIP # 31-516
Society for the Preservation of Poultry Antiquities http://sppa.webs.com/

Breeding Large Fowl Single and Rose Comb Rhode Island Reds to APA Standard


"I know of no pursuit in which more real and important services can be rendered to any country than by improving its agriculture, its breed of useful animals, and other branches of a husbandman's cares." – 

George Washington

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NPIP # 31-516
Society for the Preservation of Poultry Antiquities http://sppa.webs.com/

Breeding Large Fowl Single and Rose Comb Rhode Island Reds to APA Standard


"I know of no pursuit in which more real and important services can be rendered to any country than by improving its agriculture, its breed of useful animals, and other branches of a husbandman's cares." – 

George Washington

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Originally Posted by Chris09 
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Originally Posted by welasharon 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris09 

Chabo (Japanese Bantam) Black Head Black Rooster
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/33115_450px-chabo_zwartkop_zwart_haan.jpg
Chabo (Japanese Bantam) Black Head Black Hen
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/33115_450px-chabo_zwartkop_zwart_hen.jpg

Not my birds



chris


So I'm guessing these are not in the states?


They are not,
I found them on a German web page.

Chris


Ah well....we can drool from here.

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