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My 6 month old Asil Cockerel, it weighs 6 pounds

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LOL, no, not at all. And it's not just with Asils, or Gamefowl for that matter. They have "lines" that they are. For example, I have 100% Asils (breed) that are part Harris Reynolds (line) and part Saab Viper (line). The "line" name comes from the original breeder. It's like a stamp, a description. Denoting what the original breeder had bred, and his birds particular nuances. A line should also throw fairly consistent offspring, so it's not just a one time whacko cross that you can name as your own line. After you have bred someone's line for a long time, then you can possibly give them your own name. Mainly because they will likely have been altered, for better or worse, by your selection (or lack of) process (but then that may be taking credit that doesn't belong to you). And if you cross them with another breed OR even line, then you have to acknowledge them as such. But really it's not that easy to start your own legit "line". That's why I have Harris Reynolds x Saab Vipers and not.....Um......"Saaynold Asil". Best of all, keep them straight, select rigidly and call them what they are, give credit where it belongs and try not to shame someones line....
I actually don't know best on that subject, I'm looking forward to what you other guys have to say.
BTW, CF, some searches will bring up more results then we could provide.
I used to talk to Nick Saab years ago. Do u still have his contact info. I always wanted some of his Vipers.
 
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are saab indians asil? didn't pat patterson add shamo or goto to that line? are ike merchant's asils pure? i think they are asil. if top tier breeders are adding viper to their asil then they are asil. right?


the story i read said he didn;t use the hen again.
I got a Brazilian cock directly from Pat Patterson years ago and it was the best Asil i ever owned
 
Hello all
I have visited Curt. Spent a few hours at his place. Have had many phone conversations with him. And hours of emails.
Now about the Manual Reynolds Asils. The ones that I was sent seem to be a good size Asil. I would say they are around 6 pounds as cocks. And have very tight feathers. And good girth at the shanks. Very light eye and strong beaks. And none of the Asils that I have gotten from Curt H. Have the very heavy flesh on there face. Many guys say they have that type of Asil. Curt does not breed that type.
Now my older Red Asil stuff that I purchased from Curt seems to be a smaller Asil. Maybe more Atkinson or Sonatol blood in it.
Maybe one of you can remind me what four lines or families of Asils make up Curts Blacks. I know they contain the Raja the Rampuri and Thia type or Cambodian. I just can not remember.
Curt Hansen blood does carry Murge buddy have a email directly from him that says so. I only live a little ways from.him.and Dave and Josh are friends of mine. Curt doesn't like the meaty head because it swells however to say it wasn't git Murge in it is a false statement and I have the email to prove it. The Hansen Blacks had t Bombay, Murge from Hightower and other blood in it. I have all they blood and it didn't cost me a dime
 
Some 2023 hatch Harris asils. Mr Harris had the pure Reynolds asil with no Hyderabad or murgh added
 

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