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Wondering who else is trying to make Satsumadori.



Have an idea of what is like to use in the breedings looking to converse with a pro on orientals.


Wondering if anyone is using the same type of fowl in their process ?

For those who don't know satsumadori are a type of long tailed fowl, with a body.some what similar to a shamo.

It's status is rare world wide.
Look up this rare beeeds, its truely a amazing fowl in the poultry world.

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Awesome birds. There are none in the U.S. I am guessing? Would the cost be unreal in order for you to import say, hatching eggs, from Japan? I wonder if you could work with some military folks interested in fowl in order to bring some back to the U.S. Hatching eggs flown on a Space A flight could be a real possibility! lol

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post #3 of 89
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There is said to be only 1 if not 2 people with them in the us.
But are said to be already crossed.

I have spoke to friends about getting some from Japan, Germany, or the UK but yeah they are down right expensive for the birds alone. since they are so rare and magnificent, not even including shipping and quarentene fees.

It just hit me why not make some, have an idea of where to get started, thinks its awesome, just need to contact a few breeders, and genetic pros first. I am reading there are others starting the project of recreating some and wanting their input on what I've come up with sofar.


Edited by josh44 - 8/13/11 at 8:50am
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Does anyone know how to get a hold of shamoman on byc ?

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William Bender, aka Shamoman, of Eastern PA, has some Satsumadori project/remake birds well underway. He sold hatching eggs and adult birds from them this spring. I think a guy in Texas has some from that line/project.  I would not try to start from scratch since someone else has them fairly far along, contact some people and see if you can get some. Mr. Bender has a website with contact info, if you google satsumadori, you can find the other person who has them, sorry, once again, I can't just link you where you need to go. If I was going to make them, I would use Off type cubalayas with too high of tails, but reallly good spread, shamo or thai with nicely spread tails, and yokohamas to gain the longer feather in certain areas. It could be done other ways, of course. There is no real Satsumadori blood in the USA, just remakes.

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http://www.angelfire.com/clone/shamomansfowl/photos.html

He also has bantam Malay, since you were looking for those also...

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Originally Posted by gallorojo 

William Bender, aka Shamoman, of Eastern PA, has some Satsumadori project/remake birds well underway. He sold hatching eggs and adult birds from them this spring. I think a guy in Texas has some from that line/project.  I would not try to start from scratch since someone else has them fairly far along, contact some people and see if you can get some. Mr. Bender has a website with contact info, if you google satsumadori, you can find the other person who has them, sorry, once again, I can't just link you where you need to go. If I was going to make them, I would use Off type cubalayas with too high of tails, but reallly good spread, shamo or thai with nicely spread tails, and yokohamas to gain the longer feather in certain areas. It could be done other ways, of course. There is no real Satsumadori blood in the USA, just remakes.


Yes was thinking of cubalaya, and shamo and another breed.
Was going to try to get a hold of Sam brush later for some cubalaya.

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There were some import birds some time ago, but no pure blood left. In any case, I should have you straight now, good luck!!

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Originally Posted by josh44 

Does anyone know how to get a hold of shamoman on byc ?


Did you see his auction (now ended) for Satsumadori project eggs? There were no bidders.

http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=6400561#p6400561


Edited by racuda - 8/13/11 at 9:21am
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post #10 of 89
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Yes I saw the auction they kinda looked like Yokohama x sumatra from the pic ?
Font know I Tryed contacting the shamoman/ the seller.

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