Originally Posted by ChooksinChoppers
Something else all pet owners should know is that most Vets don't get nutritional training except from the dog food manufacturers (I used to work for a vet and I asked them)
This is taken directly from a package of Iams dog food
Chicken By-Product Meal (Natural source of Chondroitin Sulfate and Glucosamine), Corn Meal,
Chicken by-product meal is ground up heads feet feathers etc.
From Science diets web site - ingredients for their adult dog food
Ground Whole Grain Corn, Chicken By-Product Meal,
A large percentage of dogs are allergic to corn! This food lists corn as the first ingredient (which means it has a whole bunch in it.)
Edited by WhiteMountainsRanch - 8/29/11 at 12:51pm
X2!!! I also used to work as a vet tech...
1. Chocolate should NEVER EVER be given to animals. I have seen cats get sick and die from one Hershey's kiss. I've seen dogs get sick and die from 1/2 a candy bar. IT IS A MYTH THAT ONLY THE 75% AND UP CHOCOLATE IS POISONOUS. All chocolate is poisonous, but like people dogs have varying capabilities to handle the toxicity. PLUS even if you feed your dog chocolate and don't SEE any symptoms, that doesn't mean the chocolate isn't affecting the organs. In fact most cats and dogs will not show symptoms of kidney or pancreas failure until the organ is past 60% of non functioning ability.
2. Why would you want to give your dogs something their body was not designed to be fed. Processed simple carbs and sugar and VERY bad for ANY animal to be eating. Including US. And I agree with the above poster about the dog food. Try researching dog food at www.dogfoodproject.com or www.dogfoodanalysis.com.
3. Just as a note since it was mentioned... I have NOT heard about the tryptophan toxicity... The turkey is often cited as the culprit in afterdinner lethargy, but the truth is that you could omit the bird altogether and still feel the effects of the feast. Turkey does contain L-tryptophan, a very large essential amino acid. Animals must take it in through their diet as the body does not produce it on their own. Tryptophan and 5-HTP have been used to decrease aggression and impulsivity in dogs and cats. They also have both mood stabilizating and calming effects. L-tryptophan is used in the body to produce the B-vitamin, niacin. Tryptophan also can be metabolized into serotonin and melatonin, neurotransmitters that exert a calming effect and regulates sleep. However, L-tryptophan needs to be taken on an empty stomach and without any other amino acids or protein in order to make you drowsy. There's lots of protein in a serving of turkey and it's probably not the only food on the table. It's worth noting that other foods contain as much or more tryptophan than turkey (0.333 g of tryptophan per 100 gram edible portion), including chicken (0.292 g of tryptophan per 100 gram edible portion), pork, and cheese. As with turkey, other amino acids are present in these foods besides tryptophan.
HOWEVER, fatty "treats" and human food can EASILY lead to Pancreatitis in Dogs, which I have seen a lot of, here is more info on that;
Canine pancreatitis is usually divided into chronic and acute cases. Symptoms of chronic pancreatitis are milder and are often mistaken for other illnesses. While chronic pancreatitis in dogs is the milder form of the two, it's a continuing inflammatory disease that's often accompanied by slow, irreversible damage. Acute pancreatitis is usually more severe, but when it's over, there's no remaining damage to organs. So basically, canine pancreatitis can be acute and only occur once in a dog's lifetime or it can become chronic and keep returning over and over again. It can be a rapidly life threatening illness or a mild attack of pain that resolves in a few hours or a day or so. There's another very severe form of this condition called necrotizing pancreatitis, in which the damage is so severe that portions of the pancreas are actually destroyed. Some authors refer to this as hemorrhagic pancreatitis. This form of pancreatitis in dogs can be fatal and requires early intervention and aggressive treatment.
Causes of Pancreatitis in Dogs;
In a large number of cases, the cause of pancreatitis in dogs remains unclear. However, there are certain things that we know are associated with the disease.
The most important factor is what your dog eats.
Dogs with diets high in fat, and dogs who have recently gotten into the trash or have been fed greasy table scraps, seem to have a higher incidence of the disease.
A single high fat meal can cause canine pancreatitis in a dog whose normal diet is moderate or low in fat.
That's why there's a rash of pancreatitis cases at vet clinics around Thanksgiving, Christmas and Easter every year. People just can't resist sharing their high fat leftovers with the family dog.
Some other factors contributing to the development of pancreatitis in dogs include:
Lack of exercise
Chronic kidney disease
Recent abdominal surgery
Blood clotting disorders
Long-term use of corticosteroids
High calcium levels in the blood
High triglyceride and/or cholesterol levels in the blood
Hope this was informative!