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post #21 of 69
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Hey macbeth,

Thanks for the post. I think it would be worth having a section for hybrid photos, but regardless of how many photos this accumulates I think that sexing most hybrid chicks (autosexing combos aside!) is always going to be an uphill struggle! This is because the combination of genes from different breeds can have synergistic effects that won't always be possible to predict. This will particularly be the case for hybrids in the second generation and beyond. A first gen (F1) hybrid between two pure breeds should be relatively consistent genetically, because each of the parent breeds have relatively homogenous genetic makeups (if this isn't the case for the breed then it is unlikely to breed 'true'). However, the genetic input into the F2 generation from hybrid parents will be much less consistent, with the result that genotypes will be more variable, and the resulting phenotypes (the characteristics such as feather growth, colour, head-gear etc. that have a largely genetic basis) less predictable. Add to this the fact that many commercial hybrid cocks show minimal development of secondary sexual characteristics, and owners of mutts really are up against it when it comes to sexing their chicks.

That said, the easiest to sex of the 12 birds I've raised from chick, apart from our Welsummer and Cream Legbar, has been a hybrid. Snowball, our Buff Orp/White Leghorn cross, already had a prominent red comb at 3 weeks, and was chest-bumping birds twice his age even earlier. Now 7 weeks old, he gave his first strangled crow a few days ago (from a different room I thought something had fallen on him, he sounded so distressed). Particularly for hybrids of known parentage, I think photo illustrating when they can and can't be sexed would potentially be very useful. But I probably have to think of a cleverer way of organising them than I have set up for the pure breeds.

Thanks again and let me know when the gender of the chicks you are photographing becomes clear!

Mark

From oldest to youngest: Hannah (Welsummer), Joni (Lav Araucana), Cutie (Hybrid), Harriet (Cream Legbar), Summer and Ghost (Light Sussex), Ember (Barnevelder), Freakshow (Salmon Faverolle), Dilly (White Silkie) and Snowball (Buff Orp/White Leghorn roo). None laying yet...
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From oldest to youngest: Hannah (Welsummer), Joni (Lav Araucana), Cutie (Hybrid), Harriet (Cream Legbar), Summer and Ghost (Light Sussex), Ember (Barnevelder), Freakshow (Salmon Faverolle), Dilly (White Silkie) and Snowball (Buff Orp/White Leghorn roo). None laying yet...
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post #22 of 69

http://morethanjustchickens.blogspot.co d-red.html
sexing RIRS smile
my pretty babies! gotta luv em

 

http://emmaspolishbantams.webs.com/

 

 

My Chickens (Click to show)

RIR: LC(Lucky Carlos), Diego (hen), Ginger
EE: Fraggle and Fluffy
GSL: Coco
Mutt: Lil' Girl, Chance
Polish Bantam: Melody, Harmony, Symphony, Johann Sebastian Bawk
FBCM: Ceder, Maple
Olive Eggers: Willow Bonsai
 

 

 

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http://emmaspolishbantams.webs.com/

 

 

My Chickens (Click to show)

RIR: LC(Lucky Carlos), Diego (hen), Ginger
EE: Fraggle and Fluffy
GSL: Coco
Mutt: Lil' Girl, Chance
Polish Bantam: Melody, Harmony, Symphony, Johann Sebastian Bawk
FBCM: Ceder, Maple
Olive Eggers: Willow Bonsai
 

 

 

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post #23 of 69

I took weekly photos of my 4 hens as they grew this year.  Unfortunately for your project (but not for my flock) none were roosters. I had one EE, Black Star, Buff Orpington & Silver Laced Wyandotte.

I have them all in albums here on my blog.  I'm willing to share any of those series when the time comes.
Here's my link.

4 chickens in our small backyard flock
I sew mini quilts, sewing & knitting kits, and mesh produce bags.
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4 chickens in our small backyard flock
I sew mini quilts, sewing & knitting kits, and mesh produce bags.
Check out my etsy site. http://www.etsy.com/shop/greensandjeans
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post #25 of 69
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Thanks to the last katyhinmo, greensandjeans and allmychickens for your kind offers of photos. I reckon RIRs and Araucanas will probably be the next species I'll tackle, and I'll hopefully get round to Wyandottes soon as well!

Best wishes,

Mark

From oldest to youngest: Hannah (Welsummer), Joni (Lav Araucana), Cutie (Hybrid), Harriet (Cream Legbar), Summer and Ghost (Light Sussex), Ember (Barnevelder), Freakshow (Salmon Faverolle), Dilly (White Silkie) and Snowball (Buff Orp/White Leghorn roo). None laying yet...
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From oldest to youngest: Hannah (Welsummer), Joni (Lav Araucana), Cutie (Hybrid), Harriet (Cream Legbar), Summer and Ghost (Light Sussex), Ember (Barnevelder), Freakshow (Salmon Faverolle), Dilly (White Silkie) and Snowball (Buff Orp/White Leghorn roo). None laying yet...
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post #26 of 69

I think i can whip together a few chick to adult sequences. i have a BR hen, a Dominique hen, a BO hen, a BLRW hen, a EE roo, a bantam Welsummer roo, a Mille Fleur d'Uccle roo and a Dutch bantam roo as well as a partial sequence of a speckled sussex. if any of these sound useful I'll post.

my new rule: If one's a roo, replace it with two!
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my new rule: If one's a roo, replace it with two!
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post #27 of 69
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Hi mother o'chicks72, they sound great, I'd be especially interested in the BR, BO, BLRW and EE for the moment. Concentrating on large fowl for now, and these are all breeds that I've already started putting photos together for or was intending to in the near future!

Cheers,

Mark

From oldest to youngest: Hannah (Welsummer), Joni (Lav Araucana), Cutie (Hybrid), Harriet (Cream Legbar), Summer and Ghost (Light Sussex), Ember (Barnevelder), Freakshow (Salmon Faverolle), Dilly (White Silkie) and Snowball (Buff Orp/White Leghorn roo). None laying yet...
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From oldest to youngest: Hannah (Welsummer), Joni (Lav Araucana), Cutie (Hybrid), Harriet (Cream Legbar), Summer and Ghost (Light Sussex), Ember (Barnevelder), Freakshow (Salmon Faverolle), Dilly (White Silkie) and Snowball (Buff Orp/White Leghorn roo). None laying yet...
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post #28 of 69

cool thanks! do I post the photos here or is there a link to somewhere else?

my new rule: If one's a roo, replace it with two!
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my new rule: If one's a roo, replace it with two!
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post #29 of 69
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Hi mother o'chicks 72,

I just returned from hols this week so haven't looked at BYC in a while, hence the delayed reply. I guess if you post the pics in this thread, that would be interesting to readers and contributors, and would be easy for me to access in order to copy the pics across to my sexing page. Though if it worked better for you, you could post the pics into a PM, or even email me links to a location on your BYC homepages that has the pics.

Many thanks,

Mark

From oldest to youngest: Hannah (Welsummer), Joni (Lav Araucana), Cutie (Hybrid), Harriet (Cream Legbar), Summer and Ghost (Light Sussex), Ember (Barnevelder), Freakshow (Salmon Faverolle), Dilly (White Silkie) and Snowball (Buff Orp/White Leghorn roo). None laying yet...
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From oldest to youngest: Hannah (Welsummer), Joni (Lav Araucana), Cutie (Hybrid), Harriet (Cream Legbar), Summer and Ghost (Light Sussex), Ember (Barnevelder), Freakshow (Salmon Faverolle), Dilly (White Silkie) and Snowball (Buff Orp/White Leghorn roo). None laying yet...
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post #30 of 69

ok cool, I'll post 'em on here later.

my new rule: If one's a roo, replace it with two!
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my new rule: If one's a roo, replace it with two!
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