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I have been talking to many breeders lately and wondering why on earth shipped eggs are having a negative impact on hatch rate. Well, I searched around and first thought why not check out usps.com

I typed in "x-ray" and got a faq about it.

It is basically about anthrax BUT at the end: Taken directly from http://faq.usps.com/eCustomer/iq/usps/request.do?create=kb:USPSFAQ&view()=c%5Bc_usps011510%5D&varset(source)=sourceType:embedded

"Additional
Mail Security Measures

Is Mail X-Rayed?
Some of the mail that is sent through the United States Postal Service will pass through an X-Ray machine. There are no specific guidelines as to what may or may not be x-rayed, though mail sent to or through larger cities is likely to pass through an X-Ray machine.

Note: Marking a mailpiece "Do Not X-Ray" will not forgo the X-Raying of a mailpiece, and may result in the item being considered suspicious

If you have additional questions about X-Raying of items, contact your local Post Office.

Irradiation/Sanitation
The only mail currently being irradiated is mail sent to federal government agencies in WashingtonDC, for ZIP Codes beginning with 202, 203, 204 and 205. Mail to these Zones is accumulated at a site near the Brentwood Road facility, and then shipped to New Jersey to be irradiated. This process in New Jersey takes approximately 24 hours. Mail can take three (3) to five (5) days longer to reach its destination than it did prior to irradiation, but is generally not more than three (3) days. Mail returned from New Jersey is aired out for a short period before it is processed at a postal location designated for sorting all Government mail. Once the United States Postal Service provides mail to Congress and other affected government groups, some have their own mail rooms that do additional security checking before the mail is sorted and actually given to the recipients. Customers may send either Priority Mail or Express Mail items for expedited handling. This mail is not irradiated unless it is sent to the White House.

Mail may arrive in a plastic bag(gie) with a letter explaining the sanitization process (if the mail was sanitized).

Irradiation can have a negative effect on some plant, food, medical and electronic devices. While some people have reported mild symptoms after handling irradiated mail, substantial biological and medical testing has found no link between irradiated mail and those symptoms. Because the irradiation process can dry out paper and "yellow" the mail, there may be more paper dust or roughness associated with this mail. The irradiation process does not create any harmful radiation. The process was developed in consultation with scientists and experts both within and outside the federal government, led by the White House Office of Science and Technology."

With this information presented, I unmark my box but insure. What are your opinions on getting eggs safe and sound to it's recipient in terms of labeling? Apparently "Do NOT X-ray" isn't a good idea.

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post #2 of 67

That is a good question...especially with a biz, word of mouth is the best advert you can have. You don't want to be known as the "junk egg dealer". Eggs through the mail service have generally had a lower hatch rate than if local pick up...thought part of this could be that some city postal worker that has no clue thought it would be "fun" to shake things labeled fragile. Have to admit, the thought of x-rays never really occurred to me for viable eggs before.

I'm going to have to ponder on this one awhile. hu

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post #3 of 67

"The process was developed in consultation with scientists and experts both within and outside the federal government, led by the White House Office of Science and Technology."      Oh, yeah, that conforts me to no end knowing the White House led the developement of this process.  roll

Daggone if I know what is best to do.  Some say if you even put FRAGILE on the box it is liable to get handled more roughly.  A guy told me he has gotten eggs shipped that were labled, "Grandma's Cookies," but I'd be afraid they might get opened to be eaten!  big_smile   There just isn't any way to know what all happens to any of the mail we send.  The government will do what it wants, when it wants, and we are helpless to do anything about it.  I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of personal mail isn't opened up and read, then put back together with technology "led by the White House" that keeps the snooping undetectable.

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post #4 of 67

What about shipping UPS or Fedex instead?  Is USPS the only option?


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post #5 of 67

LIVE EMBRYOS! Please handle with care. Attach note if x-rayed so we know you killed them. wink

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post #6 of 67
Quote:
Originally Posted by frostbite 

What about shipping UPS or Fedex instead?  Is USPS the only option?


no..

They are rougher than the post office as far as handling.  Their job is to get the boxes out as fast as the can.  The eggs would be a scrambled mess.

Worse than what the Post office does.

post #7 of 67
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Originally Posted by BrattishTaz 

LIVE EMBRYOS! Please handle with care. Attach note if x-rayed so we know you killed them. wink


Good one!

post #8 of 67

Personally, I do nothing other than wrap the eggs the best way I can and send them on their way. Writing "Do Not X-Ray" on the box can almost guarantee that the box WILL be x-rayed, just like writing "Fragile" or "Eggs" on the box can guarantee that someone will put their foot in it.

True, I do have some reports of damage, but considering how many destroyed boxes I've had since I stopped marking my boxes compared to how many I had before, I think I'll stick with not marking my boxes....AT ALL.

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post #9 of 67
Quote:
Originally Posted by frostbite 

What about shipping UPS or Fedex instead?  Is USPS the only option?


I believe that most of USPS's packages are 'fielded' through FedEx but don't think they accept them themselves (eggs). You can ship UPS but they cost more and usually rough eggs up even worse than USPS.

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post #10 of 67

I'm thinking we need to put together a BYCPS so we know our eggs/chicks/birds arrive with having been used as a soccer ball, x-rayed, or flat out being refused. Any members have a private jet? I was gonna say let bring back the pony express, then my head started to work a liitle better. lol


Edited by rittert3 - 10/27/11 at 11:50pm

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 I finally have birds again! 1 trio of mille & spangled OGEBs and getting 72 coturnix quail eggs shipped to me when the tax return comes in.

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