Saint Pigeons

What I alway thought were saints ,turns out, are Russian Tumblers. When I first saw them they were miss labeled as saints, I have no knowledge of actual saints but they seem to look similar to capuchines.

yes ,but smaller crest..plus they have white heads , and the marking as a saint...other breeds even have a color called saint markings.

Monks .........check them out.

Monks and Saints are not the same thing. Quite a few breeds are monk marked, such as the Mookee. Most Saints I have seen are white, which was the original color.

The Saint is a fairly new breed created by crossing Schmalkalden Moorheads, Moorhead Tumblers, and Jacobins. It's basically a muffed Capuchine except they aren't baldheaded.

good point Becky...i knew they were not Monks........but do look alot like them, like you said Capuchine muffed..

I was thinking they got the bald head and white flights from the Jacobins'

been along time , from last time i saw them.........i may be mistaken about other breeds having saint markings ...it may have been monks

Here are some photos of Saints if it helps at all.  The last one is either a baldhead or monk-mark.  Some seem to say monk/baldhead is the same thing, while others seem to say that white that extends past a certain point is baldhead while a monk-mark is mainly on top of the head.  Beats me, as I haven't found a reliable definition or comparison yet. 

(most don't seem to have as heavy of feathering, this was a grand champ)





http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=145435  This BYCer owns Saints



Peguses lofts also carries Saints:
http://www.pegasusloft.net/id23.htm (more photos on page)

yep thats what the old man remember.....can see the Jacobin marking in them