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I lives in New Zealand.  Noth Island and South Island and Stewart Island and Chatham Island had diffenent races of birds.

Nth Is Kaka are dull brown forest parrots.
Sth Is Kaka are more colourful, with white crown.

Nth Is tomtit are just black and white birds.
Sth Is tomtits had yellow lower chest to belly.
Snares Island tomtit are entirely black birds.

Nth Is Robin are dull dark grey birds with whitish-grey belly.
Sth Is Robin are lighter grey, with white belly.
Stewart Is Robins are dark grey, with bright white lower chest to belly.
Chatham Island Robin are entirely black birds.

Whitehead lives in Nth Is and are white & brown birds, while Yellowhead lives in Sth Is and are yellow and brown birds.

Nth Is=North Island
Sth Is=South Island.

Juvenile fantails in New Zealand, had dark rufous chest, while juvenile Chatham Island fantails had pink chest.

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post #52 of 127

indeed it appears despite the size of New Zealand there are many species that are polytypic.

I wish I could say the same about where I'm from, Taiwan is puny compared to New Zealand. We have some interesting endemic bird species such as Swinhoe's and Mikado Pheasants and Formosan Magpie, all of which sport the colours of our national flag (not gonna get political). But I don't think Taiwan has any polytypic endemics.

it is strange that the western tip of Java is over 700 miles away from Malaysia, no Green Peafowl are distributed in between on Sumatra or Borneo. Before they became extinct in Malaysia was muticus muticus or malacense ever distributed as south as Singapore? Also did Javanensis exist in small islands such as Bali or are they just kept there in captivity?


Edited by FrankYLegend - 11/18/11 at 11:44pm
post #53 of 127

Clinton there is also the blue Peacock introduced by the English in New Zealand ... what is their status? ... are they protected?

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Clinton there is also the blue Peacock introduced by the English in New Zealand ... what is their status? ... are they protected?


Don't think the English are the only one moving birds around.  Chinese also were known for collecting birds ,fish and others.

reason i wonder really how many of all the greens are pure...or just a cross of different greens     over 600 + years of man traveling the sea.

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post #55 of 127
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Originally Posted by deerman 

you do know that man, moved many animals from one area to another.......RIGHT  sure those rats didn't fly the 200 miles to the island, or cats.

You Don't think birds didn't get move around by ships also.

size of a island compare to thev USA......still Don't see how that has anything to do with peafowl.


Go ahead tell me how dumb my post make me look.......


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No, IB peafowls are not protected and can be shot when they eat cattle pelleted foods and if they damage the crops.
They are not common birds in feral status. 
They were shipped to New Zealand in 1843, and in 1860-1870 peafowls were released as gamebirds.
A pair of green peafowls were kept at Auckland zoo, but now they are dead and New Zealand zoos are not interested in green peafowls.  Only IB peafowls are available and all over New Zealand.

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Clinton there is also the blue Peacock introduced by the English in New Zealand ... what is their status? ... are they protected?

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Bad news ! http://i27.servimg.com/u/f27/13/37/26/01/hit10.gif
http://i27.servimg.com/u/f27/13/37/26/01/peacoc11.jpg

The Japanese had in their collections of birds peacocks of which today we can only dream ! : White muticus imperator Golden eyes!from the red river valley.
http://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/13/37/26/01/white_10.jpg
http://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/13/37/26/01/47236610.gif

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Dani,
         No, These IB peafowls in New Zealand, are not often been shot and there are rather few hunters to shoot peafowls.
Peafowls are too intelligent & very wary when hunted.

I don't likes killing peafowls as they are too beautiful & friendly, plus the peafowl meats are too tough and less tasty & fatty than turkeys.  Peafowls fly away very fast as soon as they hear the "bang"

My male friend often failed to bag the peafowls, with most peafowls got away, plus he do not go hunting for them every year.
When he bag peafowls, he average get 1 or 2 birds only.
Feral peafowls sometimes change their addresses so hunters will never find them.

So Peafowls always winning while hunters end up eating their hats and shoes for dinners !  lau

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Bad news ! http://i27.servimg.com/u/f27/13/37/26/01/hit10.gif
http://i27.servimg.com/u/f27/13/37/26/01/peacoc11.jpg

The Japanese had in their collections of birds peacocks of which today we can only dream ! : White muticus imperator Golden eyes!from the red river valley.
http://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/13/37/26/01/white_10.jpg
http://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/13/37/26/01/47236610.gif


That would be an amazing bird! If only we had that today. That is like white eyed but in reverse.

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10 peafowl: 1 India Blue, 1 blackshoulder, 1 pied, 4 splits (pied or white), 3 whites.
Wanted: Pure Indo-Chinese (Imperator) peafowl, I also want a new pen!
Proud to be Native American and happy to have wonderful family & friends.
"Everything is possible with God."

 

My Website: http://bamboopeacock.com/

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post #60 of 127

I think a more careful evaluation on the true wild status of species like Peafowl, Junglefowl and Golden Pheasants is needed. All three of these species are listed as "Least Concern" but taking to the account of domestication, genetic pollution and hybridization, I think the true wild phenotypes are threatened.

There has been some talk, as Dani has shown, of how Indian Peafowl are still killed be that hunted or unintentional. The domestication of these birds doesn't help as these birds are more chubby and can't fly as well in the same way chickens are compared to junglefowl. We also have to look at the hybrid origins of some mutations; some blackshouldered peafowl appear to have Green Peafowl genes, the "Japanned" Peafowl. Also little is known about the subspecies of Indian Peafowl in captivity, some may be integrades between Cristatus and Singhalensis.

I don't think any Green Peafowl mutations have been recorded but as mentioned before there was a white morph of tonkinensis. Although that form is extinct who knows what mutations might occur... There are some odd wild mutations in India and Sri Lanka so who knows what can happen with Green Peafowl, just we haven't seen them yet.


Edited by FrankYLegend - 11/19/11 at 2:49pm
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