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Spur Development, age, and sex determination, pecking order

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Hello
Well some of my chicks are 4-5 weeks old now and i see some pecking order scruffs starting to happen in the morning.  It seems to only be in the morning wile there still in the tub,  when i move them to there outside pen the settle down.  The outside pen is actually a tad bit smaller than the inside tub.  Pen is 4 1/2 ' squared and the inside pen is a 300 gallon rubbermaid trough BOUT 59" roundish.  So i thought i would take a good look at them and see if i could get an idea about there sex.  I have 4 Buff Orp's and 4 EE's about 5 weeks and i have 7 RIR that are only about 2 weeks old. This is all new to me so any help is appreciated.  I looked at there combs not a lot of differance there, but the 1 that has a larger comb then the others doesn't have the "spur" that i see on the others.  What i mean buy spur is on the inside of there legs a little up from there feet there is a Nail/claw starting to develope.  I mean Just developing it looks like a little pimple like formation with a rounded fingernail looking center.  There on 3 of the 4 of both the Orps and the EE's (That sucks for me if these are males).  The combs are slightly varied on them but this was a noticable differance.  So I guess the question is do hens develop spurs,  and if not when do the males start to develope them for accurate sex determination.  The RIR are only 2 weeks or so and there already starting to sort out a pecking order.  I will try to take pics tonight and post them. 
I found this in another thread. 

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Originally Posted by gritsar 

I've reposted this original post from Gindee77 so many times I feel like I should be paying royalties, but here goes: 
according to UC Davis Veterinary Care Program.
2. Physical Characteristics (4-6 weeks of age)
a. Comb The cockerels comb is medium size and pinkish, the pullets is small and yellowish.
b. Legs The cockerels legs are sturdy and long, the pullets are finer and shorter. 
c. Tail The cockerels tail is stumpy and curved, the pullets is longer and straight.
d. Back The cockerel has a thin line of stub feathers down the center of his back, the pullet has more advanced feathering along the center of her back.
e. Side of neck, flank and crop The feathering in the cockerel in these areas is poorly advanced, the pullets feathering in these areas is well advanced.
f. Wing bows In the cockerel the wing bows are bare, in pullets the wing bows are covered with small feathers.


I didnt see any of these things stand out for the chicks, at least for me.  I need the chicken GURU to come by the house and give me some hands on. 

Is there a picture turtoral anywhere that shows the above characteristics????????

post #2 of 7

I don't know how much more this will help you, but...none of mine are showing much in the way of spur development yet.  Not my hens, not my roos either and mine will be 8 weeks old tomorrow.  I think it's something that varies alot by breed.  As far as the pecking order goes, they all go thru it; just like all human teenagers go thru puberty.  Some just have it worse than others.  I've found aggressive/assertiveness to be a poor guage of roosters, but that's been just my experience.

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I'll never develop a thick skin.  Thick skin leads to a hard heart and I never want to be one of those people. 

A slave to LF brahmas, seramas, runner ducks, call ducks, two geese that are my feathered children, and a crossbeak silkie X named Dragon. 

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If there ever comes a day when we can't be together keep me in your heart, I'll stay there forever - Winnie the Pooh
I'll never develop a thick skin.  Thick skin leads to a hard heart and I never want to be one of those people. 

A slave to LF brahmas, seramas, runner ducks, call ducks, two geese that are my feathered children, and a crossbeak silkie X named Dragon. 

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post #3 of 7

My most aggressive chicken so far is a Bantam Cochin PULLET!!! She best simmer down too.... she's sooooooo mean to everyone else!!

Let the Assimilation commence!
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Let the Assimilation commence!
Well, I think it's easier to say now that "Hi, my name is Angie and I am a chick-a-holic!"
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post #4 of 7
Thread Starter 

Yes  i figured they would go through it,  and i assume ( bad word) that when i get the coop and pen finished, (hopefully tommorrow) that will give them a LOT more room and the spats wont be to bad.  No signs of damage on them so i guess im good to go so far.

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Mine are 8 weeks old and I have no idea of the sex. Since they were purchased as pullets, I'm hoping all six are pullets. We do have one we call "he-shee" because heshee has what we believe are rooster behaviors. However, if I look at heshee and look at the one I call Ginger, their combs look similar. I think I'm going to wait for a true 'crow' or an egg hu

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Originally Posted by debakadeb 

I think I'm going to wait for a true 'crow' or an egg hu


If you study em real closely, you should be able to tell longggg before the first egg or crow.  Mine are 8 weeks old and I've known about my roos for about 3 weeks.  If they all look very much alike, maybe you lucked out and got all pullets.  In just a few minutes I'm gonna post some new pics of my chicks.  You'll see what I mean; the difference is clear.  wink

If there ever comes a day when we can't be together keep me in your heart, I'll stay there forever - Winnie the Pooh
I'll never develop a thick skin.  Thick skin leads to a hard heart and I never want to be one of those people. 

A slave to LF brahmas, seramas, runner ducks, call ducks, two geese that are my feathered children, and a crossbeak silkie X named Dragon. 

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If there ever comes a day when we can't be together keep me in your heart, I'll stay there forever - Winnie the Pooh
I'll never develop a thick skin.  Thick skin leads to a hard heart and I never want to be one of those people. 

A slave to LF brahmas, seramas, runner ducks, call ducks, two geese that are my feathered children, and a crossbeak silkie X named Dragon. 

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post #7 of 7

Gritsar,

I've posted pics under Gender:

http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=60800

See what you think.

Deb

live with DH, Baily the retriever, Sammy the Shih tzu, Emily the dachshund/terrier, Sadie, Fit, and Oscar( the cats)
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