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Dumb Q: But what is hardware cloth?

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I'm in Oz and I've yet to see or hear of "hardware cloth" so I guess we have a different name for it. If someone could please describe it to me I might be able to find the equivalent here.

By 'cloth', does that mean it's not make of metal? We have various types of mesh made from heavy duty nylon, wire, steel, as well as chicken wire, insect screening etc

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Does it look like this? http://sswm.com.au/Stainless-steel-woven-wire/Products/Stainless-Steel-Woven-Mesh


Edited by Nonny - 11/23/11 at 7:40pm

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post #2 of 10

Nonny,
Hardware cloth is just 1/2 inch x 1/2 inch welded wire mesh.
Not cloth at all.

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What we call hardware cloth here looks like the welded wire at the left of that link, except ours is galvanized instead of stainless steel. It is a fine mesh welded wire either 1/4" or 1/2" squares usually.

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It's on the door in this pic
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/98066_6c.jpg
and a close up in my automatic waterer
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/98066_4d.jpg

 

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FOund it! Here it seems to be marketed as aviary/bird wire mesh.

http://petandgarden.com.au/browse/print.asp?ProdID=127710

This pic is for 1" squares but I'm sure I've seen it at our local hardware store in smaller ones.


Edited by Nonny - 11/23/11 at 8:15pm

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Lacey (Light Sussex), Freckles (Ancona), Cinnamon (Welsummer) and Nutmeg (Barnevelder)

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Lacey (Light Sussex), Freckles (Ancona), Cinnamon (Welsummer) and Nutmeg (Barnevelder)

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Originally Posted by Nonny 

FOund it! Here it seems to be marketed as aviary/bird wire mesh.

http://petandgarden.com.au/browse/print.asp?ProdID=127710

This pic is for 1" squares but I'm sure I've seen it at our local hardware store in smaller ones.


If you can, I'd recommend getting the smaller 1/2" x 1/2" square stuff -- helps keep smaller pests (like mice) out, and prevents larger ones (like raccoons) from being able to reach inside and grab your birds.

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Originally Posted by baldessariclan 
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Originally Posted by Nonny 

FOund it! Here it seems to be marketed as aviary/bird wire mesh.

http://petandgarden.com.au/browse/print.asp?ProdID=127710

This pic is for 1" squares but I'm sure I've seen it at our local hardware store in smaller ones.


If you can, I'd recommend getting the smaller 1/2" x 1/2" square stuff -- helps keep smaller pests (like mice) out, and prevents larger ones (like raccoons) from being able to reach inside and grab your birds.


I could keep my chooks in an open cardboard box in the back yard and I can pretty much guarantee a 'coon wouldn't get to them. wink

Will be using the smaller 1/2" stuff anyway though... I just put up that pic to make sure it was what you were all talking about. smile

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Lacey (Light Sussex), Freckles (Ancona), Cinnamon (Welsummer) and Nutmeg (Barnevelder)

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Hardware cloth is weak stuff. I'm building, er, just finished making rabbit cages and anything over 14 gauge is very thin and weak. I could easily tear through it w/pliers. Its also very small which means it is sharp and cuts easily. I believe it is best to leave hardware cloth in the hardware section for cement walls, etc and not use it for anything animal related.
I think the only reason chicken people like hardware instead of chicken wire is because of the smaller openings, its the same gauge, so both are weak, but chicken wire is twisted together, making it stronger. If you can find 1/2in hex chicken wire, I would use that instead. I know some places you can find HDC or CW in stronger gauge, but it's usually special order or online in huge rolls only.

Hardware cloth is tightly knit wire mesh just like cloth instead of 2in chain link fencing.

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Originally Posted by secuono 

Hardware cloth is weak stuff. I'm building, er, just finished making rabbit cages and anything over 14 gauge is very thin and weak. I could easily tear through it w/pliers. Its also very small which means it is sharp and cuts easily. I believe it is best to leave hardware cloth in the hardware section for cement walls, etc and not use it for anything animal related.
I think the only reason chicken people like hardware instead of chicken wire is because of the smaller openings, its the same gauge, so both are weak, but chicken wire is twisted together, making it stronger. If you can find 1/2in hex chicken wire, I would use that instead. I know some places you can find HDC or CW in stronger gauge, but it's usually special order or online in huge rolls only.

Hardware cloth is tightly knit wire mesh just like cloth instead of 2in chain link fencing.



I've heard the exact opposite; that people choose hardware cloth over chicken wire because it is stronger. It seems stronger to me. idunno

Just to clarify;

Chicken Wire:
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/61023_300px-chicken_wire_role.jpg

Hardware cloth:
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/61023_hwrcloth.jpg

Chain link:
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/61023_chicken_wire_fence.jpg


Edited by WhiteMountainsRanch - 11/24/11 at 4:59pm
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It used to be that hardware cloth was really strong stuff and well galvanized.  Now it comes from China and it cheap weak junk.  Perhaps if you can find American made wire, it would be adequate.

I use rabbit wire for the birds, but even that is about useless if it is imported.  I couldn't buy American made rabbit wire and the stuff I've got has entire lengths of wire popping loose for absolutely no reason. I can't imagine it holding off a strong dog or even a raccoon.

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