Sexing your Silkies (PICTURES AND TIPS - Updated July-5-12)

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Here are the same 2 Silkies after hatch. I think they were 3-4 days old in pic below. The smaller one is one day younger. They were both broody-raised. During the 1st week, I thought the size difference was that extra day. Then I thought perhaps the bigger one was male. (But it had a very narrow walnut comb)
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The smaller one ate but didn't seem to grow. Feather growth was also delayed. I knew the size difference had to be more than age or gender. I pulled the silkies out daily for some extra time with the food bowl and also some protein treats.

Here they were at 6 weeks
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8 weeks
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12 weeks
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Well, I'll at least post pictures in hopes for some "guesses" as I know it is not really evident yet. These are 7.5 week old silkies. We were told bearded, hatched from eggs, but really have zero clue about silkies at all. They were enjoying my morning coffee with me. Super sweet chicks.
 

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I really think we need a thread describing key factors that are used to foretell the sex of their silkies. I know there is a thread for sexing EE's, but have yet to find one describing the difference between one of the hardest to sex breeds.. So many people are asking if their silkie is a hen or a rooster on here every day, and I have heard from silkie breeders that by the age of 3 months old you should be able to tell determine the sex of your silkie with ease.

Please feel free to send me photos of your cockerels & pullets. I would love to include some of your pictures in the original post
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SIGNS YOU HAVE A ROO:

#1:
Streamers coming out of the back of their crest. These streamers will begin to develop between the ages of 4-6 months.


Picture of my Roo's crest.

**Note: I'm noticing streamers in his offspring as young as 8 weeks old**



hen

**Edited** I have chicks as young as 8 weeks old that have a very round feminine crest**


#2: Generally Silkie males will hold their bodies much more upright than silkie pullets.


Rooster


Year old hen

#3: Silkie roosters will have long hackle feathers which are rough in texture.

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#4: MOST Silkie roosters (Not talking SQ stock here) should have a larger walnut comb than a hen when mature.
**Bearded silkies have the big poofy beard under the beak and should have barely no waddles (or the mature boys will have very little ones you can barely see ) where non-bearded will start to grow waddles pretty early (boys and girls will develop noticeable waddles with the non-bearded (clean faced) variety) **

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Besides the obvious - roosters crow and hens lay eggs. Are there any other signs anyone would like to contribute?

NOTE: These are all visual determinations of the sex difference. There are many behavioural aspects to sexing silkies as well. Not sure if I should get into that yet or not
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EDIT TO ADD BEHAVIOURAL SIGNS:

Remember, I have limited experience with silkies. I am just stating what I see between my pullets and my rooster, and what I've read online. I do spend WAY too much time reading about chickens.
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If you have time (on a weekend or a day off), sit outside with your silkies and watch their antics.

You will soon begin to notice behaviours in the boys that you will not notice in the girls. *Do not sex them as chicks based on behaviour.*

#1 Cockerels will be on watch a lot of the time. Even my young cockerel (4 months old, though not a silkie) has stood watch from a very young age. The boys are more social than the girls. If they are with others their own age they will most likely be head of the flock. If you have more than one rooster, one will be Alpha, one will be Beta.

I only have two roosters, both get along great. My silkie is my obvious Alpha rooster. My Barred Rock cockerel is Beta. Steve will not permit Jagger to breed any of 'his' hens. I'd like to see him try to mate my silkie pullets
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Poor girls..


#2 Silkie roosters start crowing (on average) between 4 and 6 months old. Don't let anyone tell you their crows are meek compared to that of their standard counterpart. My silkie rooster is LOUD.

#3 Silkie boys have a natural instinct to protect their girls (as do 99% of other roosters). Most silkie roosters are docile (up to a degree), but will do things like.. Flare their hackle feathers.
** Someone mentioned that their hens have done this, however, I have never noticed my silkies doing it. My other breeds do. Not my silkies**

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as so. I have yet to see any of my female silkies do this. I spend WAY too much time with my chickens
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I am out watching my chickens almost full days on weekends (weather permitting), and from after work until dark. I hope to one day soon own a small hobby farm.
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#4 Normally the lowest on your pecking order will be bullied by nearly every other chicken besides the rooster. My rooster is more apt to peck the head hen than the underdog. He will break up fights between the hens. It doesn't take much of his assertion to end the squabbles.

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#5 You will notice "tidbitting" from ONLY roosters **or hens with chicks, but if you have a hen with chicks, you obviously already know they are hens and not roosters!** They will make a strange call that I've only heard come out of my roos. They will pick up a piece of food, drop it, pick it up, drop it, etc. until they have the girls paying attention enough to come over and claim the piece of food. Youngest I've seen this is 4 months, but that's just my experience.

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They will also do this in attempt to mate even if they have nothing around them. It's sneaky..
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#6 Of course mating.. This behaviour can start as early as 3 months old, but for those roosters that are not alpha, it may be much later. My rooster will drop a wing and shuffle around the hen until she submits or runs away. This behaviour is best observed in the morning when you first let them out.

Mating Dance
Here is a video of a rooster doing the mating 'dance' as many call it. Do not let him do this to you. I most definitely would not let him do this to my kid. This is not my rooster. Just a good video showing the dance only a ROOSTER will do.
**Note: I was informed that some gamey types of hens may do this wing cutting if they are without a rooster in the flock. Just as some hens may crow. It is definitely not as common as a rooster doing it, but it could happen**

Hormones RAGE in the early morning
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I will have to take a video of my rooster doing his morning activities. I will not tolerate aggressiveness towards the girls. He is such a great rooster, so I normally don't need to intervene.

Please feel free to send me photos of your cockerels & pullets. I would love to include some of your pictures in the original post
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Some extra notes:

Sonoran Silkies: Longer feathers = better quality silkie.

Female colour area is breast; male colour areas are shoulders, wing bar, saddle.
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Photo courtesy of artsyrobin (thanks!)
my silky rooster. hes a good breeder. i now have silky chicks, which i incubated, that i would really love to know their genders. Its very hard to tell. I couldnt tell he was a rooster until a few months old. Yes he is a loud crower!!! Hopefully with your advice I might be able to figure out the chicks.
 

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I really think we need a thread describing key factors that are used to foretell the sex of their silkies. I know there is a thread for sexing EE's, but have yet to find one describing the difference between one of the hardest to sex breeds.. So many people are asking if their silkie is a hen or a rooster on here every day, and I have heard from silkie breeders that by the age of 3 months old you should be able to tell determine the sex of your silkie with ease.

Please feel free to send me photos of your cockerels & pullets. I would love to include some of your pictures in the original post
smile.png


SIGNS YOU HAVE A ROO:

#1:
Streamers coming out of the back of their crest. These streamers will begin to develop between the ages of 4-6 months.


Picture of my Roo's crest.

**Note: I'm noticing streamers in his offspring as young as 8 weeks old**



hen

**Edited** I have chicks as young as 8 weeks old that have a very round feminine crest**


#2: Generally Silkie males will hold their bodies much more upright than silkie pullets.


Rooster


Year old hen

#3: Silkie roosters will have long hackle feathers which are rough in texture.

IMG_1415.jpg


IMG_0734-1.jpg


#4: MOST Silkie roosters (Not talking SQ stock here) should have a larger walnut comb than a hen when mature.
**Bearded silkies have the big poofy beard under the beak and should have barely no waddles (or the mature boys will have very little ones you can barely see ) where non-bearded will start to grow waddles pretty early (boys and girls will develop noticeable waddles with the non-bearded (clean faced) variety) **

IMG_0496-1.jpg


Besides the obvious - roosters crow and hens lay eggs. Are there any other signs anyone would like to contribute?

NOTE: These are all visual determinations of the sex difference. There are many behavioural aspects to sexing silkies as well. Not sure if I should get into that yet or not
tongue.png


EDIT TO ADD BEHAVIOURAL SIGNS:

Remember, I have limited experience with silkies. I am just stating what I see between my pullets and my rooster, and what I've read online. I do spend WAY too much time reading about chickens.
roll.png


If you have time (on a weekend or a day off), sit outside with your silkies and watch their antics.

You will soon begin to notice behaviours in the boys that you will not notice in the girls. *Do not sex them as chicks based on behaviour.*

#1 Cockerels will be on watch a lot of the time. Even my young cockerel (4 months old, though not a silkie) has stood watch from a very young age. The boys are more social than the girls. If they are with others their own age they will most likely be head of the flock. If you have more than one rooster, one will be Alpha, one will be Beta.

I only have two roosters, both get along great. My silkie is my obvious Alpha rooster. My Barred Rock cockerel is Beta. Steve will not permit Jagger to breed any of 'his' hens. I'd like to see him try to mate my silkie pullets
lol.png
Poor girls..


#2 Silkie roosters start crowing (on average) between 4 and 6 months old. Don't let anyone tell you their crows are meek compared to that of their standard counterpart. My silkie rooster is LOUD.

#3 Silkie boys have a natural instinct to protect their girls (as do 99% of other roosters). Most silkie roosters are docile (up to a degree), but will do things like.. Flare their hackle feathers.
** Someone mentioned that their hens have done this, however, I have never noticed my silkies doing it. My other breeds do. Not my silkies**

IMG_0625-2.jpg

as so. I have yet to see any of my female silkies do this. I spend WAY too much time with my chickens
gig.gif

I am out watching my chickens almost full days on weekends (weather permitting), and from after work until dark. I hope to one day soon own a small hobby farm.
fl.gif


#4 Normally the lowest on your pecking order will be bullied by nearly every other chicken besides the rooster. My rooster is more apt to peck the head hen than the underdog. He will break up fights between the hens. It doesn't take much of his assertion to end the squabbles.

IMG_0118.jpg


#5 You will notice "tidbitting" from ONLY roosters **or hens with chicks, but if you have a hen with chicks, you obviously already know they are hens and not roosters!** They will make a strange call that I've only heard come out of my roos. They will pick up a piece of food, drop it, pick it up, drop it, etc. until they have the girls paying attention enough to come over and claim the piece of food. Youngest I've seen this is 4 months, but that's just my experience.

IMG_0889.jpg


They will also do this in attempt to mate even if they have nothing around them. It's sneaky..
lol.png


#6 Of course mating.. This behaviour can start as early as 3 months old, but for those roosters that are not alpha, it may be much later. My rooster will drop a wing and shuffle around the hen until she submits or runs away. This behaviour is best observed in the morning when you first let them out.

Mating Dance
Here is a video of a rooster doing the mating 'dance' as many call it. Do not let him do this to you. I most definitely would not let him do this to my kid. This is not my rooster. Just a good video showing the dance only a ROOSTER will do.
**Note: I was informed that some gamey types of hens may do this wing cutting if they are without a rooster in the flock. Just as some hens may crow. It is definitely not as common as a rooster doing it, but it could happen**

Hormones RAGE in the early morning
roll.png


I will have to take a video of my rooster doing his morning activities. I will not tolerate aggressiveness towards the girls. He is such a great rooster, so I normally don't need to intervene.

Please feel free to send me photos of your cockerels & pullets. I would love to include some of your pictures in the original post
smile.png


Some extra notes:

Sonoran Silkies: Longer feathers = better quality silkie.

Female colour area is breast; male colour areas are shoulders, wing bar, saddle.
both-1.jpg

Photo courtesy of artsyrobin (thanks!)
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Any thoughts on my 12 week old Snowball?
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